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Post by CDF47 on Wed May 16, 2018 10:34 am

westcott123 wrote:Even then it is not about the fight it is about what ever was  twitted or some other gossipy shit ^^

But of course the only time they talk about is if there is a "fixed" fight yep Ishii fell down from a phantom punch so he  can he kicked and knead in the head. Or if Gabi is fighting some old lady.


True.

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Post by CDF47 on Wed May 16, 2018 10:37 am

westcott123 wrote:Seriously do they actually think before they write? If all mma fights in Japan are all fixed the winners and losers would be completely different.

Bellator is closing in on the ufc Rizin is growing and will be a major player in the Asian mma scene whether it will be become top dog on Asia who knows? Might might not.

It is amazing what happens when the ufc can't buy out a rival organization.

Be great to have  a Bellator rizin partnership something to that effect or any organization hell doesn't even have to be a partnership if the fighters want to compete and become the champion in 2 different promotions why not?

No kidding. I don't what they think.

Agreed.

I love it when the can't.

I really hope they work together like they started out doing. Bellator did give them Mo again on NYE so that was a good sign. I agree, just lending fighters would be fine. They get fighters from the Japanese orgs. for each event it seems.

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Post by westcott123 on Wed May 16, 2018 6:00 pm

The whole fixed fights thing they say that the person knew months in advance to take a dive yet cro cop had losses w Silva had losses Henderson had losses apart from fedor and filiho and whom ever else all other pride legends had losses does that mean they were told to take a dive?
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westcott123 wrote:Seriously do they actually think before they write? If all mma fights in Japan are all fixed the winners and losers would be completely different.

Bellator is closing in on the ufc Rizin is growing and will be a major player in the Asian mma scene whether it will be become top dog on Asia who knows? Might might not.

It is amazing what happens when the ufc can't buy out a rival organization.

Be great to have  a Bellator rizin partnership something to that effect or any organization hell doesn't even have to be a partnership if the fighters want to compete and become the champion in 2 different promotions why not?

You think Bellator is closing in on UFC? I hope so but I know people have been saying their ratings have been declining. Of is it possible that it's also because Bellator is trying to get their prospects more exposure? Look at Fedor/Mir which was the only big fight while all the others featured prospects?
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Post by westcott123 on Wed May 16, 2018 7:15 pm

Well not a fast pace in a few years yeah the opposite could happen too I look at these factors

1 the ufc is $4,000,000,000 in debt I doubt wme would want more debt to buy out bell

2 the prospect thing you were talking about they might laugh at Bellator and rizin having prospects they are the future possible stars of the sport

3 fighters either leaving the ufc or signing else we're they can say uh who cares? What will happen when all the ufc stars retire?..

To be truthful I believe mma would get to big for the there to be one big organization there is no way the ufc would be able to house every single top fighter.
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Post by CDF47 on Wed May 16, 2018 7:54 pm

westcott123 wrote:Even then it is not about the fight it is about what ever was  twitted or some other gossipy shit ^^

But of course the only time they talk about is if there is a "fixed" fight yep Ishii fell down from a phantom punch so he  can he kicked and knead in the head. Or if Gabi is fighting some old lady.


Yeah, exactly.

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westcott123 wrote:Even then it is not about the fight it is about what ever was  twitted or some other gossipy shit ^^

But of course the only time they talk about is if there is a "fixed" fight yep Ishii fell down from a phantom punch so he  can he kicked and knead in the head. Or if Gabi is fighting some old lady.


Yeah, beat me to it. Then again, the MMA "media" would rather cover Ronda Rousey's WWE appearances or upcoming movie over Rizin.
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Post by CDF47 on Wed May 16, 2018 8:00 pm

westcott123 wrote:Well not a fast pace in a few years yeah the opposite could happen too I look at these factors

1 the ufc  is $4,000,000,000 in debt I doubt wme would want more debt to buy out bell

2 the prospect thing you were talking about they might laugh at Bellator and rizin having prospects they are the future possible stars of the sport

3 fighters either leaving the ufc or signing else we're they can say uh who cares? What will happen when all the ufc stars retire?..

To be truthful I believe mma would get to big for the there to be one big organization there is no way the ufc  would be able to house every single top fighter.

I don't see them buying any org. out any time soon either.

Agreed.

Agreed.

I just hope Rizin could be that second major org. in the world with Bellator at no. 3. Add the Rizin/Bellator partnership to that and they will be bigger than UFC.

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Post by CDF47 on Wed May 16, 2018 8:01 pm

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westcott123 wrote:Even then it is not about the fight it is about what ever was  twitted or some other gossipy shit ^^

But of course the only time they talk about is if there is a "fixed" fight yep Ishii fell down from a phantom punch so he  can he kicked and knead in the head. Or if Gabi is fighting some old lady.


Yeah, beat me to it. Then again, the MMA "media" would rather cover Ronda Rousey's WWE appearances or upcoming movie over Rizin.

Yeah, I'm tire of that. Rizin is not getting any coverage hardly. Weigh-in results and fight results are about it.

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Post by westcott123 on Wed May 16, 2018 8:06 pm

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westcott123 wrote:Well not a fast pace in a few years yeah the opposite could happen too I look at these factors

1 the ufc  is $4,000,000,000 in debt I doubt wme would want more debt to buy out bell

2 the prospect thing you were talking about they might laugh at Bellator and rizin having prospects they are the future possible stars of the sport

3 fighters either leaving the ufc or signing else we're they can say uh who cares? What will happen when all the ufc stars retire?..

To be truthful I believe mma would get to big for the there to be one big organization there is no way the ufc  would be able to house every single top fighter.

I don't see them buying any org. out any time soon either.

Agreed.

Agreed.

I just hope Rizin could be that second major org. in the world with Bellator at no. 3. Add the Rizin/Bellator partnership to that and they will be bigger than UFC.


That's right because they will have top fighters from both sides of the world. The ufc does have fighters from different countries it primarily has American and Brazilian fighters on the rooster.
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Post by westcott123 on Wed May 16, 2018 8:19 pm

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Rocksoldier84 wrote:
westcott123 wrote:Even then it is not about the fight it is about what ever was  twitted or some other gossipy shit ^^

But of course the only time they talk about is if there is a "fixed" fight yep Ishii fell down from a phantom punch so he  can he kicked and knead in the head. Or if Gabi is fighting some old lady.


Yeah, beat me to it. Then again, the MMA "media" would rather cover Ronda Rousey's WWE appearances or upcoming movie over Rizin.

Yeah, I'm tire of that.  Rizin is not getting any coverage hardly.  Weigh-in results and fight results are about it.

It does stink they should rename them selves ufc fighting ufc junkie ufc dog ufc elbow etc no wonder some so called think mma outside the ufc is shit. If it wasn't for gmma we would hadn't hear anything about Rizin ff.

It is amazing how some people talk about pride as soon as you show them a pride event and all of a sudden they're fascinated by it or they cringe because the see Wanderlei silva stomping someone's head in the funny part is when they ask what organization is that? You say that was pride fc has that ever happened to anyone here in real life?
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Post by westcott123 on Thu May 17, 2018 3:41 am

Let's be real if they had their way there would no coverage of any mma organization apart from the ufc then again if they had their way there would be no major mma organizations apart from the ufc .
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Post by westcott123 on Thu May 17, 2018 6:34 am

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westcott123 wrote:Well not a fast pace in a few years yeah the opposite could happen too I look at these factors

1 the ufc  is $4,000,000,000 in debt I doubt wme would want more debt to buy out bell

2 the prospect thing you were talking about they might laugh at Bellator and rizin having prospects they are the future possible stars of the sport

3 fighters either leaving the ufc or signing else we're they can say uh who cares? What will happen when all the ufc stars retire?..

To be truthful I believe mma would get to big for the there to be one big organization there is no way the ufc  would be able to house every single top fighter.

I don't see them buying any org. out any time soon either.

Agreed.

Agreed.

I just hope Rizin could be that second major org. in the world with Bellator at no. 3. Add the Rizin/Bellator partnership to that and they will be bigger than UFC.

If they did go into a partnership that could be possible, the ufc will always be a big player unless something happens it won't go the way of pride unless some big scandal hits it like i said the ufc would be a lot more enjoyable if it wasn't for the smear campaign against other organizations and fighters not in the ufc, the fans, the ego maniac Dana white.
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Post by Rocksoldier84 on Thu May 17, 2018 10:51 am

Well, this could make fighters interested in Bellator. Bader, Kongo, & Mo each got $150,000 from Saturday. Fitch earned $60,000 plus a win bonus which meant he walked out $120,000 richer. Even Pico got $35,000 plus win bonus so he left his fourth fight with $70,000. Daley & Ayala earned $30,000.

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Post by CDF47 on Thu May 17, 2018 1:49 pm

westcott123 wrote:
CDF47 wrote:
westcott123 wrote:Well not a fast pace in a few years yeah the opposite could happen too I look at these factors

1 the ufc  is $4,000,000,000 in debt I doubt wme would want more debt to buy out bell

2 the prospect thing you were talking about they might laugh at Bellator and rizin having prospects they are the future possible stars of the sport

3 fighters either leaving the ufc or signing else we're they can say uh who cares? What will happen when all the ufc stars retire?..

To be truthful I believe mma would get to big for the there to be one big organization there is no way the ufc  would be able to house every single top fighter.

I don't see them buying any org. out any time soon either.

Agreed.

Agreed.

I just hope Rizin could be that second major org. in the world with Bellator at no. 3. Add the Rizin/Bellator partnership to that and they will be bigger than UFC.


That's right because they will have top fighters from both sides of the world. The ufc  does have fighters from different countries it primarily has American and Brazilian fighters on the rooster.

Yeah, I'd rather see it more like it was in the PRIDE days.

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Post by CDF47 on Thu May 17, 2018 1:51 pm

westcott123 wrote:
CDF47 wrote:
Rocksoldier84 wrote:
westcott123 wrote:Even then it is not about the fight it is about what ever was  twitted or some other gossipy shit ^^

But of course the only time they talk about is if there is a "fixed" fight yep Ishii fell down from a phantom punch so he  can he kicked and knead in the head. Or if Gabi is fighting some old lady.


Yeah, beat me to it. Then again, the MMA "media" would rather cover Ronda Rousey's WWE appearances or upcoming movie over Rizin.

Yeah, I'm tire of that.  Rizin is not getting any coverage hardly.  Weigh-in results and fight results are about it.

It does stink they should rename them selves ufc fighting ufc junkie ufc dog ufc elbow etc no wonder some so called think mma outside the ufc is shit. If it wasn't for gmma we would hadn't hear anything about Rizin ff.

It is amazing how some people talk about pride as soon as you show them a pride event and all of a sudden they're fascinated by it or they cringe because the see Wanderlei silva stomping someone's head in the funny part is when they ask what organization is that? You say that was pride fc has that ever happened to anyone here in real life?

I've shown people PRIDE videos and they were amazed with the production and the JMMA rules. They were PRIDE fans instantly.

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Post by CDF47 on Thu May 17, 2018 1:52 pm

westcott123 wrote:Let's be real if they had their way there would no coverage of any mma organization apart from the ufc then again if they had their way there would be no major mma organizations apart from the ufc .

True. They like to say ever org. is a minor league feeder org. to them and they are the NFL but that analogy does not work in a individual combat sport like MMA.

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Post by CDF47 on Thu May 17, 2018 1:53 pm

westcott123 wrote:
CDF47 wrote:
westcott123 wrote:Well not a fast pace in a few years yeah the opposite could happen too I look at these factors

1 the ufc  is $4,000,000,000 in debt I doubt wme would want more debt to buy out bell

2 the prospect thing you were talking about they might laugh at Bellator and rizin having prospects they are the future possible stars of the sport

3 fighters either leaving the ufc or signing else we're they can say uh who cares? What will happen when all the ufc stars retire?..

To be truthful I believe mma would get to big for the there to be one big organization there is no way the ufc  would be able to house every single top fighter.

I don't see them buying any org. out any time soon either.

Agreed.

Agreed.

I just hope Rizin could be that second major org. in the world with Bellator at no. 3. Add the Rizin/Bellator partnership to that and they will be bigger than UFC.

If they did go into a partnership that could be possible, the ufc  will always be a big player unless something happens it won't go the way of pride unless some big scandal hits it like i said the ufc would be a lot more enjoyable if it wasn't for the smear campaign against other organizations and fighters not in the ufc, the fans, the ego maniac Dana white.

I agree.

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Post by CDF47 on Thu May 17, 2018 1:54 pm

Rocksoldier84 wrote:Well, this could make fighters interested in Bellator. Bader, Kongo, & Mo each got $150,000 from Saturday. Fitch earned $60,000 plus a win bonus which meant he walked out $120,000 richer. Even Pico got $35,000 plus win bonus so he left his fourth fight with $70,000. Daley & Ayala earned $30,000.

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Nice payouts.

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Post by westcott123 on Thu May 17, 2018 3:38 pm

CDF47 wrote:
westcott123 wrote:
CDF47 wrote:
Rocksoldier84 wrote:
westcott123 wrote:Even then it is not about the fight it is about what ever was  twitted or some other gossipy shit ^^

But of course the only time they talk about is if there is a "fixed" fight yep Ishii fell down from a phantom punch so he  can he kicked and knead in the head. Or if Gabi is fighting some old lady.


Yeah, beat me to it. Then again, the MMA "media" would rather cover Ronda Rousey's WWE appearances or upcoming movie over Rizin.

Yeah, I'm tire of that.  Rizin is not getting any coverage hardly.  Weigh-in results and fight results are about it.

It does stink they should rename them selves ufc fighting ufc junkie ufc dog ufc elbow etc no wonder some so called think mma outside the ufc is shit. If it wasn't for gmma we would hadn't hear anything about Rizin ff.

It is amazing how some people talk about pride as soon as you show them a pride event and all of a sudden they're fascinated by it or they cringe because the see Wanderlei silva stomping someone's head in the funny part is when they ask what organization is that? You say that was pride fc has that ever happened to anyone here in real life?

I've shown people PRIDE videos and they were amazed with the production and the JMMA rules.  They were PRIDE fans instantly.

That's is funny isn't it? Of course some people hate pride and no matter what you show them their minds are already made up.
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Post by westcott123 on Thu May 17, 2018 5:40 pm

CDF47 wrote:
Rocksoldier84 wrote:Well, this could make fighters interested in Bellator. Bader, Kongo, & Mo each got $150,000 from Saturday. Fitch earned $60,000 plus a win bonus which meant he walked out $120,000 richer. Even Pico got $35,000 plus win bonus so he left his fourth fight with $70,000. Daley & Ayala earned $30,000.

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Nice payouts.

They are nice pay outs and that is what they earn just add in the sponsorships instead of 150k Ryan probably really got about 250k of 300k
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Post by CDF47 on Thu May 17, 2018 9:03 pm

westcott123 wrote:
CDF47 wrote:
westcott123 wrote:
CDF47 wrote:
Rocksoldier84 wrote:

Yeah, beat me to it. Then again, the MMA "media" would rather cover Ronda Rousey's WWE appearances or upcoming movie over Rizin.

Yeah, I'm tire of that.  Rizin is not getting any coverage hardly.  Weigh-in results and fight results are about it.

It does stink they should rename them selves ufc fighting ufc junkie ufc dog ufc elbow etc no wonder some so called think mma outside the ufc is shit. If it wasn't for gmma we would hadn't hear anything about Rizin ff.

It is amazing how some people talk about pride as soon as you show them a pride event and all of a sudden they're fascinated by it or they cringe because the see Wanderlei silva stomping someone's head in the funny part is when they ask what organization is that? You say that was pride fc has that ever happened to anyone here in real life?

I've shown people PRIDE videos and they were amazed with the production and the JMMA rules.  They were PRIDE fans instantly.

That's is funny isn't it? Of course some people hate pride and no matter what you show them their minds are already made up.

Yeah, very true.

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Post by CDF47 on Thu May 17, 2018 9:05 pm

westcott123 wrote:
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Rocksoldier84 wrote:Well, this could make fighters interested in Bellator. Bader, Kongo, & Mo each got $150,000 from Saturday. Fitch earned $60,000 plus a win bonus which meant he walked out $120,000 richer. Even Pico got $35,000 plus win bonus so he left his fourth fight with $70,000. Daley & Ayala earned $30,000.

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Nice payouts.

They are nice pay outs and that is what they earn just add in the sponsorships instead of 150k Ryan probably really got about 250k of 300k

I was surprised they made so much. I wonder what the UFC fanboys have to say about this.

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Re: Bellator 199: Bader vs. King Mo - May 12 (OFFICIAL DISCUSSION)

Post by westcott123 on Thu May 17, 2018 9:52 pm

Uh they're focusing on what the preliminary fighters earned that's their justification to add to their this organization is shit because. Section D paragraph 5 number 20
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Re: Bellator 199: Bader vs. King Mo - May 12 (OFFICIAL DISCUSSION)

Post by CDF47 on Fri May 18, 2018 4:35 am

westcott123 wrote:Uh they're focusing on what the preliminary fighters earned that's their justification to add to their this organization is shit because. Section D paragraph 5 number 20

Oh, of course they have something to say.

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