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Post by CDF47 on Sun Mar 04, 2018 11:25 pm

This would be a good signing for Bellator if they get him. Cro Cop has been looking good lately.

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Post by westcott123 on Mon Mar 05, 2018 2:28 am

CDF47 wrote:This would be a good signing for Bellator if they get him.  Cro Cop has been looking good lately.

Isn't cro cop retiring for good this year? And isn't he talking about retiring on the rizin ff nye show? It would 1 or 2 at the most he would have in Bellator he would of been a be a great alternative to the heavyweight grand prix.  I will add if this year is it really no point in putting him in the GP if mirko wins and then retires they Bellator are back to square one  of course on the flip side it would add to mirko collection (pride k1 Igf rizin Bellator) I would also love to see fedor win then again how long is he going to fight? {rings 2x pride pride gp wamma Bellator) either way I would love to see a rematch my bet is on cro cop to win the rematch hopefully that happens this year.
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Post by nodogoshi on Mon Mar 05, 2018 10:44 am

Perhaps Cro Cop will continue if the money is right?

That's a guess.

My guess with the Rizin extension was they offered him a lot of money. Perhaps Bellator has a lot of money on the table.

Crocop said he intended to retire after winning the Rizin Grand Prix, as that was a great way to go out and he felt he had nothing left to accomplish.

Perhaps it comes down to he is in high demand, and the money is worth it?

Fighters fight. And that being the case wouldn't shock me.

We know how UFC pay is shit, and maybe the money initially in Rizin was good but not great. However, Rizin needs big names, and obviously Crocop is a huge name in Japan, plus he won their grand prix tournament, so it could be the money was simply right?

Bellator is chugging along, and perhaps they are in a position to pay big bucks to a name like Crocop.

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Post by Rizin=PRIDEFC on Mon Mar 05, 2018 12:11 pm

I see a lot of good opponents for CroCop in Bellator.
CroCop vs. Kharitonov, Wanderlei, Rampage, Fedor, Liddell, Nelson...
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Post by Rizin=PRIDEFC on Mon Mar 05, 2018 2:12 pm

CroCop is fighting Roy Nelson in Bellator and will be back in Rizin.

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Post by westcott123 on Mon Mar 05, 2018 10:14 pm

Rizin=PRIDEFC wrote:CroCop is fighting Roy Nelson in Bellator and will be back in Rizin.


Mirko undefeated in mma rematches and in my view mma would be more global if fighters were not confined to one organization I mean what would be wrong being say Bellator rizin champion?
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Post by CDF47 on Tue Mar 06, 2018 5:14 pm

westcott123 wrote:
CDF47 wrote:This would be a good signing for Bellator if they get him.  Cro Cop has been looking good lately.

Isn't cro cop retiring for good this year? And isn't he talking about retiring on the rizin ff nye show? It would 1 or 2 at the most he would have in Bellator he would of been a be a great alternative to the heavyweight grand prix.  I will add if this year is it really  no point in putting him in the GP if mirko wins and then retires they Bellator are back to square one  of course on the flip side it would add to mirko collection (pride k1 Igf rizin Bellator) I would also love to see fedor win then again how long is he going to fight? {rings 2x pride pride gp wamma Bellator) either way I would love to see a rematch my bet is on cro cop to win the rematch hopefully that happens this year.

Yeah, he was supposed to retire with a final fight on NYE but who knows, his plans may have changed.

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Post by CDF47 on Tue Mar 06, 2018 5:15 pm

Rizin=PRIDEFC wrote:I see a lot of good opponents for CroCop in Bellator.
CroCop vs. Kharitonov, Wanderlei, Rampage, Fedor, Liddell, Nelson...

Yeah, there is a nice lineup.

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Post by CDF47 on Tue Mar 06, 2018 5:16 pm

westcott123 wrote:
Rizin=PRIDEFC wrote:CroCop is fighting Roy Nelson in Bellator and will be back in Rizin.


Mirko undefeated in mma rematches and in my view mma would be more global if fighters were not confined to one organization I mean what would be wrong being say Bellator rizin champion?

Would be great to see that.

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Post by CDF47 on Tue Mar 06, 2018 5:16 pm

nodogoshi wrote:Perhaps Cro Cop will continue if the money is right?

That's a guess.

My guess with the Rizin extension was they offered him a lot of money. Perhaps Bellator has a lot of money on the table.

Crocop said he intended to retire after winning the Rizin Grand Prix, as that was a great way to go out and he felt he had nothing left to accomplish.

Perhaps it comes down to he is in high demand, and the money is worth it?

Fighters fight. And that being the case wouldn't shock me.

We know how UFC pay is shit, and maybe the money initially in Rizin was good but not great. However, Rizin needs big names, and obviously Crocop is a huge name in Japan, plus he won their grand prix tournament, so it could be the money was simply right?

Bellator is chugging along, and perhaps they are in a position to pay big bucks to a name like Crocop.

Yeah, the money could be right he was offered by Bellator.

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Post by Rocksoldier84 on Thu Mar 08, 2018 6:03 pm

Not sure if you guys saw but apparently the media and zombies are out because they're questioning whether Cro Cop should fight since he flunked his USADA test and never sat out during the two years.
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Post by CDF47 on Thu Mar 08, 2018 6:23 pm

Wouldn't expect nothing less from them zombies.

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Post by Rocksoldier84 on Thu Mar 08, 2018 7:09 pm

Here's an article from Sherdog.

http://www.sherdog.com/news/articles/Opinion-Bellators-Checkered-Bridge-to-Nowhere-133139

The whole thing is weird since Belfort and Bigfoot failed tests and fought internationally.
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Post by westcott123 on Tue Mar 13, 2018 12:32 am

Rocksoldier84 wrote:Here's an article from Sherdog.

http://www.sherdog.com/news/articles/Opinion-Bellators-Checkered-Bridge-to-Nowhere-133139

The whole thing is weird since Belfort and Bigfoot failed tests and fought internationally.

https://www.google.com.au/amp/s/www.sportsjoe.ie/amp/mma/usada-reveal-mirko-cro-cop-was-suspended-despite-not-failing-drug-test-58700

http://forums.sherdog.com/threads/mirko-cro-cop-passed-drug-test-still-suspended.3147527/

Here are two of them from back when it happened.
Technically mirko didn't fail the test but of course anytime the zombies here about a former pride fighter being caught with something out come the they all juiced in pride and that's why they did shitty in the ufc.



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Post by Rocksoldier84 on Tue Mar 13, 2018 12:39 am

westcott123 wrote:
Rocksoldier84 wrote:Here's an article from Sherdog.

http://www.sherdog.com/news/articles/Opinion-Bellators-Checkered-Bridge-to-Nowhere-133139

The whole thing is weird since Belfort and Bigfoot failed tests and fought internationally.

https://www.google.com.au/amp/s/www.sportsjoe.ie/amp/mma/usada-reveal-mirko-cro-cop-was-suspended-despite-not-failing-drug-test-58700

http://forums.sherdog.com/threads/mirko-cro-cop-passed-drug-test-still-suspended.3147527/

Here are two of them from back when it happened.
Technically mirko didn't fail the test but of course anytime the zombies here about a former pride fighter being caught with something out come the they all juiced in pride and that's why they did shitty in the ufc.

I will add this rant one thing that annoys me is when people say shit like "mma only counts if it is in a cage and under unified rules" now where in the mma rule book does it say that? Thats like saying  "tennis only counts when it is played on grass"and  "playing on clay doesn't count".

That's true, Cro Cop's test found nothing and if he didn't admit it, we wouldn't have known. Again, why is the media trying to act like this is some type of scandal when the suspension ended in November? Again, fighters fought internationally before. Belfort, Bigfoot, and Barnett all did it and I don't recall the media acting horrified over that. It seems like the media is really going after Bellator lately.
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Post by westcott123 on Tue Mar 13, 2018 12:59 am

^^ of course most of them suck up to the ufc and the only people that criticse the ufc are independent media cause they don't have to brown nose ^^

you know what it is its that Bellator is gaining a huge following and they're like "no.we can't have that" the ufc should be the only big player town the same with rizin ff I mean they were talking shit even before it started. I'm sure you remember when they used that ishii prochska fight was "fixed" I mean yep I will just flop on the ground and let the guy kick and knee me in the head don't forget boys and girls those moves will kill you. It makes you wonder if they think before they write?.
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westcott123 wrote:^^ of course most of them suck up to the ufc and the only people that criticse the ufc are independent media cause they don't have to brown nose ^^  

you know what it is its that Bellator is gaining a huge following and they're like "no.we can't have that" the ufc should be the only big player town the same with rizin ff I mean they were talking shit even before it started. I'm sure you remember when they used that ishii prochska fight was "fixed" I mean yep I will just flop on the ground and let the guy kick and knee me in the head don't forget boys and girls those moves will kill you. It makes you wonder if they think before they write?.

I don't remember where it was but one website asked if Bellator will be a competitor or if Viacom is content with a successful show.

Yeah, I remember that. Well said. Then again, why the hell would the Japanese company fix it so the Japanese Olympic gold medalist in judo gets knocked out in the quarterfinals? What sense does that make? Same with PRIDE as they claimed it was fixed but the rules were barbaric. Which is it? Or maybe that's why they accuse it of being fixed because they feel someone would get killed if done "for real".
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Post by westcott123 on Tue Mar 13, 2018 12:26 pm

^^ who knows the simplest answer is that there are a bunch of ufc nut licking zombies who only started watching when McGregor came on the scene

The real annoying ones are those arse holes who seem to think they have some sort of authority in say what fights are real and what are just entertainment.

This guy for example

It really doesn't matter. He was great for entertainment, not the real sport. Once he tries in the big leagues, he got kod easily against real top 10 fighters. He was in Japan n Pride as well as DREAM however Japan MMA is for entertainment just like WWE n NJPW, entertainment n most fighters can use roids, trt n other illegal substance to even compete. Plus those 2 companies went down due that even several fights in Pride wer fixed n the Yakuzas wer involved. That's why they are for entertainment n now Cro Cop went to Rizin even though he got caught in the UFC so he can continue like he was, entertainer


Funny thing is another Facebook post about Tim Sylvia the same guy say Tim Sylvia fought elite competition yet was finished by 2 guys who were just entertainers
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westcott123 wrote:^^ who knows the simplest answer is that there are a bunch of ufc nut licking zombies who only started watching when McGregor came on the scene

The real annoying ones are those arse holes who seem to think they have some sort of authority in say what fights are real and what are just entertainment.

This guy for example

It really doesn't matter. He was great for entertainment, not the real sport. Once he tries in the big leagues, he got kod easily against real top 10 fighters. He was in Japan n Pride as well as DREAM however Japan MMA is for entertainment just like WWE n NJPW, entertainment n most fighters can use roids, trt n other illegal substance to even compete. Plus those 2 companies went down due that even several fights in Pride wer fixed n the Yakuzas wer involved. That's why they are for entertainment n now Cro Cop went to Rizin even though he got caught in the UFC so he can continue like he was, entertainer


Funny thing is   another Facebook post about Tim Sylvia the same guy say Tim Sylvia fought elite competition yet was finished by 2 guys who were just entertainers  

Hoo boy. Where do I start in ripping this apart? First, PRIDE had a few fixed fights and I like how they forget UFC had fixed fights early on while Rutten/Kohsaka featured questionable refereeing after UFC heavily touted Rutten. Also, if fights were fixed then how come more fighters haven't come out and admitted they threw fights? Fighters make excuses all the time when they lose so you think someone other than Coleman would've come out and said they threw a fight.

Second of all, does he not realize UFC fighters have abused or used steroids? The guy UFC long considered the greatest of all time flunked two tests. Jon Jones was considered the GOAT at one point and he's flunked two tests. Josh Barnett, Tim Sylvia, Sean Sherk, and Jon Jones have been stripped of UFC titles due to drug test failures. Meanwhile, former champions and title contenders like Hermes Franca, Chael Sonnen, Brock Lesnar, Lyoto Machida, Gilbert Melendez, Chad Mendes, Alistair Overeem & Frank Mir have failed drug tests on the UFC's watch. Meanwhile, TRT was abused heavily in the UFC. Randy Couture clearly used it and Joe Rogan pretty much admitted it. Mir, Sonnen, Marquardt, Rothwell, and Belfort to name some used TRT and it was extremely controversial especially with Belfort. Also, UFC didn't test for everything as they didn't do blood work for years which allowed fighters to get away with HGH.

Fedor thrashed Sylvia in America where there is drug testing so explain that one. Has this guy looked at Sylvia's record? Sure, Sylvia beat Rodriguez, Arlovski twice, and Monson but what other elite guys did he beat? Cabbage Corriera? Wes Sims? Tra Telligman? Sylvia was on top when UFC's Heavyweight Division was nothing more than a barren wasteland.

PRIDE went under because of ties to the Yakuza that cost them their Fuji TV deal and DREAM sadly never caught on. Drug use had nothing to do with it.
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Post by westcott123 on Wed Mar 14, 2018 6:46 am

He is a guy on Facebook who always repeats the entertainment not the true sport mantra the fact that he calls cro cop an entertainer what a dick head it makes you wonder if people like him have seen a pride fc fight? And if it is all " entertainment " and Fake then why don't they step in the ring and prove their theory right? I have asked people in the past it is unsurprising how quickly they shut up.
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Post by westcott123 on Wed Mar 14, 2018 6:47 am

Or they attack you personally because they can't counter act what you said. Any person that uses the term real fighters is a fucking moron what's the difference between a ufc fighters and Bellator fighters? Oh they fight in different promotions the same with ufc and rizin they both do mma just different versions of it.
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Post by westcott123 on Wed Mar 14, 2018 6:55 am

Mirko has beaten Josh 3x Coleman and Randleman and as I recall these guys were all ufc champions at one point I guess going by his logic the ufc has always been an entertainment thing and that their fights don't count.
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westcott123 wrote:Or they attack you personally because they can't counter act what you said. Any person that uses the term real fighters is a fucking moron what's the difference between a ufc  fighters and Bellator fighters? Oh they fight in different promotions the same with ufc and rizin they both do mma just different versions of it.

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Post by westcott123 on Thu Mar 15, 2018 2:41 am

I would like to know that I mean "real fighters in the ufc I can't see how pride rizin doesn't didn't have real fighters and that guy with his JMMA is entertainment 1 last time Iooked two people puching and kicking each other add in the ground game and a rule set that gives them heart attacks "it will kill someone" how is that not real fight?
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