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Post by westcott123 on Sun Jul 08, 2018 6:06 am

A fun one how would Daniel vs fedor match go 

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Both are quick for heavy weight fedor has more power both have great cardio they can have gone the distance.
Striking daniel has that walk down grinding style where as fedor is more unorthodox with his striking
My vote goes to fedor why?  Apart from Jones an unorthodox striker with high level grappling knock out power who has an iron chin who is very quick and can flow from one technique to another on a whim that is prime fedor.
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Post by westcott123 on Sun Jul 08, 2018 6:13 am

Now this is the reaction I would get else were "you don't know what the fuck you're talking about" "herp derp big foot smashed fedor and Daniel smashed big foot" "dc became a 2 division at 39 fedor was just an overrated can crusher who lost when was 33 which is prime years for a heavyweight".
1 I don't know we're the 33 is heavyweight prime came from
2 dc is 21-1-0-1 in a 9 year period were as fedor was 31-1-0-1 in a 9 year period
3 dc started at 30 fedor at 23
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Post by Rocksoldier84 on Sun Jul 08, 2018 12:14 pm

westcott123 wrote:Now this is the reaction I would get else were "you don't know what the fuck you're talking about" "herp derp big foot smashed fedor and Daniel smashed big foot" "dc became a 2 division at 39 fedor was just an overrated can crusher who lost when was 33 which is prime years for a heavyweight".
1 I don't know we're the 33 is heavyweight prime came from
2 dc is 21-1-0-1 in a 9 year period were as fedor was 31-1-0-1 in a 9 year period
3 dc started at 30 fedor at 23

1. If Fedor sucks then I guess Cain and JDS do too since they were washed up. Cain's injuries have gotten worse since the third fight when he was 31 while JDS has looked terrible since the third fight when he was 29. Big Nog must suck since he too started declining by 32. It's almost never about age but mileage.
2. Nice record for DC but may I remind them Fedor not has ten more wins but his loss to Kohsaka was bullshit while DC decisively lost to Jones.
3. DC not only started late but Fedor fought more regulary. Other than 2010, DC never fought more than three times. Fedor fought more than three times a year in 2000, 2001, 2003, 2004, and 2011.
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Post by CDF47 on Sun Jul 08, 2018 1:18 pm

westcott123 wrote:A fun one how would Daniel vs fedor match go 

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Both are quick for heavy weight fedor has more power both have great cardio they can have gone the distance.
Striking daniel has that walk down grinding style where as fedor is more unorthodox with his striking
My vote goes to fedor why?  Apart from Jones an unorthodox striker with high level grappling knock out power who has an iron chin who is very quick and can flow from one technique to another on a whim that is prime fedor.

That would be an interesting fight. I would also have to go with prime Fedor, as always. He was unstoppable.

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Post by CDF47 on Sun Jul 08, 2018 1:21 pm

westcott123 wrote:Now this is the reaction I would get else were "you don't know what the fuck you're talking about" "herp derp big foot smashed fedor and Daniel smashed big foot" "dc became a 2 division at 39 fedor was just an overrated can crusher who lost when was 33 which is prime years for a heavyweight".
1 I don't know we're the 33 is heavyweight prime came from
2 dc is 21-1-0-1 in a 9 year period were as fedor was 31-1-0-1 in a 9 year period
3 dc started at 30 fedor at 23

I could see that discussion taking place for sure. Prime Fedor smashes everyone.

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Post by CDF47 on Sun Jul 08, 2018 1:22 pm

Rocksoldier84 wrote:
westcott123 wrote:Now this is the reaction I would get else were "you don't know what the fuck you're talking about" "herp derp big foot smashed fedor and Daniel smashed big foot" "dc became a 2 division at 39 fedor was just an overrated can crusher who lost when was 33 which is prime years for a heavyweight".
1 I don't know we're the 33 is heavyweight prime came from
2 dc is 21-1-0-1 in a 9 year period were as fedor was 31-1-0-1 in a 9 year period
3 dc started at 30 fedor at 23

1. If Fedor sucks then I guess Cain and JDS do too since they were washed up. Cain's injuries have gotten worse since the third fight when he was 31 while JDS has looked terrible since the third fight when he was 29. Big Nog must suck since he too started declining by 32. It's almost never about age but mileage.
2. Nice record for DC but may I remind them Fedor not has ten more wins but his loss to Kohsaka was bullshit while DC decisively lost to Jones.
3. DC not only started late but Fedor fought more regulary. Other than 2010, DC never fought more than three times. Fedor fought more than three times a year in 2000, 2001, 2003, 2004, and 2011.

Great points.

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Post by CDF47 on Mon Jul 09, 2018 4:36 pm

Anyone see one of the worst fights in history between Francis N. and Big Beast?

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Post by westcott123 on Mon Jul 09, 2018 5:56 pm

CDF47 wrote:Anyone see one of the worst fights in history between Francis N. and Big Beast?
No I didn't I heard it was one of the worst fights ever I digress when you have two heavy hitters this can happen because they are more wary of the other person power and are less inclined to throw in case they get clipped with something  

I like what mighty mouse said if I find the link said along the lines "if you think fly weights are boring I will send you a link to this fight".
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Post by CDF47 on Mon Jul 09, 2018 7:37 pm

westcott123 wrote:
CDF47 wrote:Anyone see one of the worst fights in history between Francis N. and Big Beast?
No I didn't I heard it was one of the worst fights ever I digress when you have two heavy hitters this can happen because they are more wary of the other person power and are less inclined to throw in case they get clipped with something  

I like what mighty mouse said if I find the link said along the lines "if you think fly weights are boring I will send you a link to this fight".

It was terrible.  Nganou hardly threw any strikes at all the entire fight.  They just moved around staring at each other the entire fight.  Shamrock vs. Severn way back in the day was the worst fight I ever seen but this one was up there.

I haven't seen that Mighty Mouse quote.

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Post by Rocksoldier84 on Mon Jul 09, 2018 8:24 pm

CDF47 wrote:Anyone see one of the worst fights in history between Francis N. and Big Beast?

Haven't seen it yet but I hear Dana threw Ngannou under the bus saying his ego ran away. Gee, I wonder who was one of the guys who was fluffing his ego? Again, no wonder certain people don't want anything to do with him. I give fighters credit since it must be SO tempting to slap Dana.
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Post by CDF47 on Mon Jul 09, 2018 9:12 pm

Rocksoldier84 wrote:
CDF47 wrote:Anyone see one of the worst fights in history between Francis N. and Big Beast?

Haven't seen it yet but I hear Dana threw Ngannou under the bus saying his ego ran away. Gee, I wonder who was one of the guys who was fluffing his ego? Again, no wonder certain people don't want anything to do with him. I give fighters credit since it must be SO tempting to slap Dana.

That is the pot calling the kettle black.  I could see why Dana was pissed in this fight but he shouldn't bring up ego.  The fight was so horrible both guys should be under card fighters on a Fight Night card in their up coming fights.  It was brutal to sit through. I thought this would be fight or finish of the night but it turned out horrible.

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Post by westcott123 on Tue Jul 10, 2018 2:11 am

Rocksoldier84 wrote:
CDF47 wrote:Anyone see one of the worst fights in history between Francis N. and Big Beast?

Haven't seen it yet but I hear Dana threw Ngannou under the bus saying his ego ran away. Gee, I wonder who was one of the guys who was fluffing his ego? Again, no wonder certain people don't want anything to do with him. I give fighters credit since it must be SO tempting to slap Dana.
It must be so tempting for them to do that  just think earlier this year he and the ufc brass were acting like Francis was already the heavyweight champion we all know the ufc of they can make money of your name their you're best friend if not oh who gives a shit abour them. It does also say a lot about their fan base.
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Post by CDF47 on Tue Jul 10, 2018 2:35 am

westcott123 wrote:
Rocksoldier84 wrote:
CDF47 wrote:Anyone see one of the worst fights in history between Francis N. and Big Beast?

Haven't seen it yet but I hear Dana threw Ngannou under the bus saying his ego ran away. Gee, I wonder who was one of the guys who was fluffing his ego? Again, no wonder certain people don't want anything to do with him. I give fighters credit since it must be SO tempting to slap Dana.
It must be so tempting for them to do that  just think earlier this year he and the ufc brass were acting like Francis was already the heavyweight champion we all know the ufc of they can make money of your name their you're best friend if not oh who gives a shit abour them. It does also say a lot about their fan base.

They were acting like he was the GOAT before even winning the belt.

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Post by westcott123 on Thu Jul 12, 2018 2:16 am

https://www.mmamania.com/2018/7/10/17556502/report-ufc-226-ppv-buys-under-400000-stipe-miocic-daniel-cormier-knockout-vegas-mma

Apparently the ppv did 400k I assume since USA has over 300 million people that is not a good ppv sales?
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Post by CDF47 on Thu Jul 12, 2018 3:26 am

westcott123 wrote:https://www.mmamania.com/2018/7/10/17556502/report-ufc-226-ppv-buys-under-400000-stipe-miocic-daniel-cormier-knockout-vegas-mma

Apparently the ppv did 400k I assume since USA has over 300 million people that is not a good ppv sales?

I think they expected more for their international fight week event. It was a solid card. I am sure Holloway getting injured hurt it a bit but not too much. DC/Stipe was the main draw to the card.

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Post by CDF47 on Fri Jul 13, 2018 3:01 am

One other fight really worth watching is Costa vs. Hall.

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