Rizin 14 - Floyd Mayweather vs Nasukawa - December 31 (OFFICIAL DISCUSSION)

nodogoshi wrote:

westcott123 wrote:Man Just imagine a person having the stand up skills of petrosyan the submission skills of roger gracie and the wrestling of Aleksandr karelin the boxing skills of sugar Ray Robinson Man that fighter would be undefeated in mma.

Of course such a fighter would be unbeatable.

But that kind of fighter is also impossible. (Except in a video game.)

The reason is that each of these are not only the respective best in their sports (is Roger Gracie? I don't know about BJJ much, but is he actually on the same level as the others? I'm actually not sure.)

Anyway, the reason it's impossible is that each of these fighters were not just incredibly skilled, incredible athletes, and incredibly well trained; they were also incredibly experienced in their sports, and that last one counts for a hell of a lot. They honed their skills through fights. Training isn't the same as competition.

There aren't enough days in the year, or years in life, for a single fighter to become truly experienced and elite in 4 different sports. MMA is a melting pot of sorts, but it is impressive when an elite athlete in wrestling or kickboxing becomes an elite fighter in MMA. They are true two sport athletes.

Combat sports is a little different from other sports. But what you are suggesting, is something like if Bo Jackson was not just an elite football and baseball player; but was also an elite basketball and ice hockey player (if we indeed we pretend that the scheduling was even possible. Let's pretend basketball was played in the summer, football in the fall, hockey in the winter, and baseball in the spring. So, we'll pretend it's technically possible. But that's pretty much what you are suggesting. But you are also suggesting that he is the best in each sport. He is Gretzky, Jordan, Bonds, and Deon Sanders.)

Just not a realistic conversation.

Just not realistic.

CDF47 wrote:https://www.instagram.com/p/BqOc0OiF5VQ/?utm_source=ig_embed

Sakakibara got it done!

westcott123 wrote:

CDF47 wrote:https://www.instagram.com/p/BqOc0OiF5VQ/?utm_source=ig_embed

Sakakibara got it done!

Yep even though it is a boxing people will tune in to see it. Will give rizin more international attention i digress i certainly hope that rizin doesn't have to do things like this to garner international attention .

westcott123 wrote:^^ i heard it was an exhibition match ^^

westcott123 wrote:Apart from them crowning champions soon be great if rizin does shows in other countries too i digress not every country will allow soccer kicks.

To be truthful for rizin to be a mega promotion like the ufc,one fc, bellator they do have to go to other countries and hold events there too.

westcott123 wrote:Wow a title match in my view who ever wins will be the best atom weight in mma.

westcott123 wrote:^^same here ^^ they still have to do a light weight light heavyweight GP etc
Looks rizin Divisions are
Open weight 
Heavyweight
Light heavyweight
Light weight 
Bantam weight
Women's 
Open weight 
Atom weight. 
That's what i have been seeing i digress it might different when they crown though .

westcott123 wrote:http://forums.sherdog.com/threads/in-retrospect-pride-jmma-as-a-whole-is-very-overrated.3867669/page-11#post-146786751


I'm not on sherdog so i will share my opinions here
So this person thinks that the ufc was the better organisation pride was pro wrasslin . Where do these people come from? Don't they look into the history of it?.

On the cans well it kept the fighters active i guess they prefer for them to fight once or twice a year. 

Title matches granted the belts should of been defended more often besides pride i assume rizin too is will be more about the GP. 

My view the belt doesn't have to be defended every fight but at least every 2nd to 4th match  

As for rizin it will be great if it can grow into a top 3/4 mma promotion.

CDF47 wrote:

westcott123 wrote:http://forums.sherdog.com/threads/in-retrospect-pride-jmma-as-a-whole-is-very-overrated.3867669/page-11#post-146786751


I'm not on sherdog so i will share my opinions here
So this person thinks that the ufc was the better organisation pride was pro wrasslin . Where do these people come from? Don't they look into the history of it?.

On the cans well it kept the fighters active i guess they prefer for them to fight once or twice a year. 

Title matches granted the belts should of been defended more often besides pride i assume rizin too is will be more about the GP. 

My view the belt doesn't have to be defended every fight but at least every 2nd to 4th match  

As for rizin it will be great if it can grow into a top 3/4 mma promotion.

Yeah, there should have been more title matches but not a huge deal in my opinion.  

Rizin as a top promotion sounds great.  I'd like to see them be top 1 or 2 one day.  I hope that is not just wishful thinking.

westcott123 wrote:^^ same here i agree the next couple of years should give us an idea where rizin is^^

westcott123 wrote:

CDF47 wrote:

westcott123 wrote:http://forums.sherdog.com/threads/in-retrospect-pride-jmma-as-a-whole-is-very-overrated.3867669/page-11#post-146786751


I'm not on sherdog so i will share my opinions here
So this person thinks that the ufc was the better organisation pride was pro wrasslin . Where do these people come from? Don't they look into the history of it?.

On the cans well it kept the fighters active i guess they prefer for them to fight once or twice a year. 

Title matches granted the belts should of been defended more often besides pride i assume rizin too is will be more about the GP. 

My view the belt doesn't have to be defended every fight but at least every 2nd to 4th match  

As for rizin it will be great if it can grow into a top 3/4 mma promotion.

Yeah, there should have been more title matches but not a huge deal in my opinion.  

Rizin as a top promotion sounds great.  I'd like to see them be top 1 or 2 one day.  I hope that is not just wishful thinking.

I agree on the title defences besides how is it any different to a ufc fighter who is the champion but fights sporadically?  At least you got to see fedor and wanderlei in the ring often.

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