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Post by CDF47 on Sun Dec 09, 2018 1:13 pm

westcott123 wrote:On the ufc can you believe it some people are calling Max the greatest featherweight ever the goat feather weight is the man who before McGregor was 25-1 defended the belt wec and ufc 9x in total. In that case why aren't they calling Chris weidman the middle weight goat he beat Anderson twice.

I know, it is crazy how they throw that word around. Best ever and GOAT are used so much by the UFC.

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Post by westcott123 on Sun Dec 09, 2018 4:56 pm

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CDF47 wrote:I always wanted to see the day when UFC cross-promotes with someone.  
Be a higher chance of winning the lotto than that happening. 

Besides we all know what happened the last time they did that.

Yes there is a difference between say the ufc and local show but both ufc bellator rizin one etc fighters are at a high level and anyone could win on the night .

They fear losing.  That is the main reason they don't cross-promote, I agree.  Who knows though, maybe one day they could throw a middle ranked fighter in a RIZIN GP or something along these lines.  In return they could get someone like Jiri to fight a fight in the UFC against anyone.
That's true i mean that is their whole schtik against everyone else we're the best in the world because reasons. The real best in the world would be the person who holds the belts in all the major promotions and beats the top contenders.
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westcott123 wrote:
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CDF47 wrote:I always wanted to see the day when UFC cross-promotes with someone.  
Be a higher chance of winning the lotto than that happening. 

Besides we all know what happened the last time they did that.

Yes there is a difference between say the ufc and local show but both ufc bellator rizin one etc fighters are at a high level and anyone could win on the night .

They fear losing.  That is the main reason they don't cross-promote, I agree.  Who knows though, maybe one day they could throw a middle ranked fighter in a RIZIN GP or something along these lines.  In return they could get someone like Jiri to fight a fight in the UFC against anyone.
That's true i mean that is their whole schtik against everyone else we're the best in the world because reasons. The real best in the world would be the person who holds the belts in all the major promotions and beats the top contenders.

Absolutely. That is who should be the champion in MMA.

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Post by Rocksoldier84 on Fri Dec 21, 2018 8:41 pm

westcott123 wrote:On the ufc can you believe it some people are calling Max the greatest featherweight ever the goat feather weight is the man who before McGregor was 25-1 defended the belt wec and ufc 9x in total. In that case why aren't they calling Chris weidman the middle weight goat he beat Anderson twice.

Yeah, it's fucking stupid. Then again, you have that moron Rogan saying it during Holloway/Ortega which is why. Remember, you got zombies saying Rogan is the greatest announcer ever.
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Post by CDF47 on Sat Dec 22, 2018 10:47 am

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westcott123 wrote:On the ufc can you believe it some people are calling Max the greatest featherweight ever the goat feather weight is the man who before McGregor was 25-1 defended the belt wec and ufc 9x in total. In that case why aren't they calling Chris weidman the middle weight goat he beat Anderson twice.

Yeah, it's fucking stupid. Then again, you have that moron Rogan saying it during Holloway/Ortega which is why. Remember, you got zombies saying Rogan is the greatest announcer ever.

That definitely doesn't help, I agree.

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Post by westcott123 on Sat Dec 22, 2018 9:48 pm

My opinion Just because you beat someone twice should not automatically mean you're the goat in that division. Max is 2-0 against Jose most will go 3-0 if they dance a third time. Still aldo is the goat.

Max has a better ufc record than Jose well duh that's because the ufc didn't have a featherweight division when Jose was starting out  Yes I have seen someone say that.

Max 100% beat aldo by outpacing him skill was involved but that was the catalyst of it. Pretty much of how tj best renan foot work movement in and out though going off tangent in the second tj fight you would think chopping the legs down would of been part of the gameplan.

In people opinion who is the most successful bellator champion between chandler and Pitbull?
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Post by Rocksoldier84 on Sun Dec 23, 2018 12:28 am

westcott123 wrote:My opinion Just because you beat someone twice should not automatically mean you're the goat in that division. Max is 2-0 against Jose most will go 3-0 if they dance a third time. Still aldo is the goat.

Max has a better ufc record than Jose well duh that's because the ufc didn't have a featherweight division when Jose was starting out  Yes I have seen someone say that.

Max 100% beat aldo by outpacing him skill was involved but that was the catalyst of it. Pretty much of how tj best renan foot work movement in and out though going off tangent in the second tj fight you would think chopping the legs down would of been part of the gameplan.

In people opinion who is the most successful bellator champion between chandler and Pitbull?

Sometimes, styles make fights. Saying Holloway has a better record is stupid because Aldo had to wait years before he got into UFC since they, you know, didn't have a featherweight division until 2011. By the time Holloway got to the UFC, the division was a year old and he was 21.

The thing is besides the wins over Aldo, what does Holloway have over Aldo? Aldo has been far more dominate in featherweight. Aldo went unbeaten for nine years and nearly 20 fights. He's made 7 successful defenses while Holloway's only made 2. Aldo has the better trophy case being a 2 time UFC Champion (3 with the interim) and a former WEC Champion while never losing the latter title while Holloway only has 1 UFC belt. Aldo has the better hit list with his UFC wins being Ricardo Lamas, Chad Mendes 2x, Frankie Edgar 2x, and Korean Zombie while holding wins over Alexandre Franca Nogueira, Cub Swanson, Mike Brown, and Urijah Faber in WEC while Holloway has beaten Aldo 2x, Anthony Pettis, Brian Ortega, Ricardo Lamas, and Cub Swanson.

Difficult to pick between Chandler and Pitbull. Both have great arguments with Chandler making history with most titles but Pitbull has most successful title defenses.
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Post by westcott123 on Sun Dec 23, 2018 4:19 am

Some "fans" have that what have you done for me lately?.
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Post by CDF47 on Sun Dec 23, 2018 9:30 am

Too many fans have that.

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Post by westcott123 on Sun Dec 23, 2018 8:06 pm

CDF47 wrote:Too many fans have that.
Unfortunately you're right about that.
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Post by Rocksoldier84 on Tue Dec 25, 2018 12:48 am

westcott123 wrote:https://www.mmafighting.com/2018/12/8/18131265/fightweets-pondering-mmas-promotional-landscape-in-2019?fbclid=IwAR3uWj8DfDOjPiobxs6SonPeXxI89rFGPKGzWFlYlEFIiJvHKnzxuvbGVQE

What do you fellas think of this? You know sites like these should be called ufc fighting with sometimes bellator and rizin and which other organisation thrown in.

It says the ufc is the biggest by a wide margin but my question is that because it is or is it because the ufc is the most talked about? "

At this point, is UFC the biggest by a wide margin? Their business has been in decline, they run on an outdated model like PPV, other promotions are clearly on the rise, and even fighters are bailing to go elsewhere which was unheard of when the decade began. Meanwhile, Rizin is doing well in Japan, ONE is all over Asia, and Bellator has been expanding internationally along with the DAZN deal.
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Post by CDF47 on Tue Dec 25, 2018 1:25 pm

Rocksoldier84 wrote:
westcott123 wrote:https://www.mmafighting.com/2018/12/8/18131265/fightweets-pondering-mmas-promotional-landscape-in-2019?fbclid=IwAR3uWj8DfDOjPiobxs6SonPeXxI89rFGPKGzWFlYlEFIiJvHKnzxuvbGVQE

What do you fellas think of this? You know sites like these should be called ufc fighting with sometimes bellator and rizin and which other organisation thrown in.

It says the ufc is the biggest by a wide margin but my question is that because it is or is it because the ufc is the most talked about? "

At this point, is UFC the biggest by a wide margin? Their business has been in decline, they run on an outdated model like PPV, other promotions are clearly on the rise, and even fighters are bailing to go elsewhere which was unheard of when the decade began. Meanwhile, Rizin is doing well in Japan, ONE is all over Asia, and Bellator has been expanding internationally along with the DAZN deal.

The Fertittas got out for a reason. They know they over saturated their product.

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Post by Rocksoldier84 on Tue Dec 25, 2018 8:40 pm

CDF47 wrote:
Rocksoldier84 wrote:
westcott123 wrote:https://www.mmafighting.com/2018/12/8/18131265/fightweets-pondering-mmas-promotional-landscape-in-2019?fbclid=IwAR3uWj8DfDOjPiobxs6SonPeXxI89rFGPKGzWFlYlEFIiJvHKnzxuvbGVQE

What do you fellas think of this? You know sites like these should be called ufc fighting with sometimes bellator and rizin and which other organisation thrown in.

It says the ufc is the biggest by a wide margin but my question is that because it is or is it because the ufc is the most talked about? "

At this point, is UFC the biggest by a wide margin? Their business has been in decline, they run on an outdated model like PPV, other promotions are clearly on the rise, and even fighters are bailing to go elsewhere which was unheard of when the decade began. Meanwhile, Rizin is doing well in Japan, ONE is all over Asia, and Bellator has been expanding internationally along with the DAZN deal.

The Fertittas got out for a reason.  They know they over saturated their product.

Too bad Dana wasn't smart enough to get out.
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Post by westcott123 on Tue Dec 25, 2018 10:25 pm

Rocksoldier84 wrote:
CDF47 wrote:
Rocksoldier84 wrote:
westcott123 wrote:https://www.mmafighting.com/2018/12/8/18131265/fightweets-pondering-mmas-promotional-landscape-in-2019?fbclid=IwAR3uWj8DfDOjPiobxs6SonPeXxI89rFGPKGzWFlYlEFIiJvHKnzxuvbGVQE

What do you fellas think of this? You know sites like these should be called ufc fighting with sometimes bellator and rizin and which other organisation thrown in.

It says the ufc is the biggest by a wide margin but my question is that because it is or is it because the ufc is the most talked about? "

At this point, is UFC the biggest by a wide margin? Their business has been in decline, they run on an outdated model like PPV, other promotions are clearly on the rise, and even fighters are bailing to go elsewhere which was unheard of when the decade began. Meanwhile, Rizin is doing well in Japan, ONE is all over Asia, and Bellator has been expanding internationally along with the DAZN deal.

The Fertittas got out for a reason.  They know they over saturated their product.

Too bad Dana wasn't smart enough to get out.
That's true with rizin I do believe that if they want rizin to be a global leader they have to do international events too top three promotions do it 

As for tournaments having it at least the finals on nye would be great to definitely make it interesting have the title holder in the tournament..

You will get people ah that's fucking stupid 

1 it makes interesting the fact that even the champion can lose in the first round. 

2 a belt is on the line 

3 what's the difference between a person who has non title fights and a person who fights sporadically?
After all if both defend 5x they still have the same amount of defences.
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Post by CDF47 on Wed Dec 26, 2018 1:38 am

Rocksoldier84 wrote:
CDF47 wrote:
Rocksoldier84 wrote:
westcott123 wrote:https://www.mmafighting.com/2018/12/8/18131265/fightweets-pondering-mmas-promotional-landscape-in-2019?fbclid=IwAR3uWj8DfDOjPiobxs6SonPeXxI89rFGPKGzWFlYlEFIiJvHKnzxuvbGVQE

What do you fellas think of this? You know sites like these should be called ufc fighting with sometimes bellator and rizin and which other organisation thrown in.

It says the ufc is the biggest by a wide margin but my question is that because it is or is it because the ufc is the most talked about? "

At this point, is UFC the biggest by a wide margin? Their business has been in decline, they run on an outdated model like PPV, other promotions are clearly on the rise, and even fighters are bailing to go elsewhere which was unheard of when the decade began. Meanwhile, Rizin is doing well in Japan, ONE is all over Asia, and Bellator has been expanding internationally along with the DAZN deal.

The Fertittas got out for a reason.  They know they over saturated their product.

Too bad Dana wasn't smart enough to get out.

His hopes must be on the big money fights like with Conner and Lesnar if he returns.

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Post by CDF47 on Wed Dec 26, 2018 1:43 am

westcott123 wrote:
Rocksoldier84 wrote:
CDF47 wrote:
Rocksoldier84 wrote:
westcott123 wrote:https://www.mmafighting.com/2018/12/8/18131265/fightweets-pondering-mmas-promotional-landscape-in-2019?fbclid=IwAR3uWj8DfDOjPiobxs6SonPeXxI89rFGPKGzWFlYlEFIiJvHKnzxuvbGVQE

What do you fellas think of this? You know sites like these should be called ufc fighting with sometimes bellator and rizin and which other organisation thrown in.

It says the ufc is the biggest by a wide margin but my question is that because it is or is it because the ufc is the most talked about? "

At this point, is UFC the biggest by a wide margin? Their business has been in decline, they run on an outdated model like PPV, other promotions are clearly on the rise, and even fighters are bailing to go elsewhere which was unheard of when the decade began. Meanwhile, Rizin is doing well in Japan, ONE is all over Asia, and Bellator has been expanding internationally along with the DAZN deal.

The Fertittas got out for a reason.  They know they over saturated their product.

Too bad Dana wasn't smart enough to get out.
That's true with rizin I do believe that if they want rizin to be a global leader they have to do international events too top three promotions do it 

As for tournaments having it at least the finals on nye would be great to definitely make it interesting have the title holder in the tournament..

You will get people ah that's fucking stupid 

1 it makes interesting the fact that even the champion can lose in the first round. 

2 a belt is on the line 

3 what's the difference between a person who has non title fights and a person who fights sporadically?
After all if both defend 5x they still have the same amount of defences.

PRIDE use to put champs in the GPs. Would be cool if RIZIN did too.

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Post by Rocksoldier84 on Wed Dec 26, 2018 1:50 am


Not surprised. Jones is his worst enemy. Always has and always will be. What's awesome here is Dana vowing never to put Jones in the main event again and here we are. I also love how, we talked about this, with the zombies always talking about steroids in PRIDE and how PRIDE was shady and how PRIDE guys that didn't do good afterwards cause they couldn't juice. Well, now what do they say? UFC is as shady as PRIDE was and their greats did steroids like PRIDE guys did. UFC and their fighters aren't the white knights of MMA.
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Post by CDF47 on Wed Dec 26, 2018 4:58 pm

Rocksoldier84 wrote:

Not surprised. Jones is his worst enemy. Always has and always will be. What's awesome here is Dana vowing never to put Jones in the main event again and here we are. I also love how, we talked about this, with the zombies always talking about steroids in PRIDE and how PRIDE was shady and how PRIDE guys that didn't do good afterwards cause they couldn't juice. Well, now what do they say? UFC is as shady as PRIDE was and their greats did steroids like PRIDE guys did. UFC and their fighters aren't the white knights of MMA.

Nope, I heard somewhere around 50 percent or more of fighters have used a PED at one time or other.

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Post by westcott123 on Thu Dec 27, 2018 8:54 pm

Didn't gsp or someone say at least 90 percent of fighters are on something? *
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Post by CDF47 on Thu Dec 27, 2018 9:11 pm

westcott123 wrote:Didn't gsp or someone say at least 90 percent of fighters are on something? *

Someone gave a ridiculous high number before like 90 percent or something. I can't remember who it was.

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Post by westcott123 on Fri Dec 28, 2018 7:04 pm

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westcott123 wrote:Didn't gsp or someone say at least 90 percent of fighters are on something? *

Someone gave a ridiculous high number before like 90 percent or something.  I can't remember who it was.
I think it was gsp as for the pride was shady cause of roids thing well people in glass houses shouldn't throw stones.
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Post by Rocksoldier84 on Fri Dec 28, 2018 9:05 pm

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westcott123 wrote:Didn't gsp or someone say at least 90 percent of fighters are on something? *

Someone gave a ridiculous high number before like 90 percent or something.  I can't remember who it was.

Sam Alvey said 90% of UFC fighters are on the juice.
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westcott123 wrote:
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westcott123 wrote:Didn't gsp or someone say at least 90 percent of fighters are on something? *

Someone gave a ridiculous high number before like 90 percent or something.  I can't remember who it was.
I think it was gsp as for the pride was shady cause of roids thing well people in glass houses shouldn't throw stones.

Exactly.

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