Re: Global-MMA Rankings (Outside UFC) - September 2013

Wed Sep 25, 2013 5:10 pm

I'll brain storm for a bit and make my list in a few Smile

Wed Sep 25, 2013 5:12 pm

MR.WILLIE wrote:

CDF47 wrote:

Realidea wrote:Luiz Cane

If he gets another solid win, like his win this weekend, he could be a good addition to the 205 rankings. Wallace is a pretty good win but he was 1-4 in his last 5 fights before that over the last 4 years. Bellator,KSW, M-1, or ONE should pick him up. Would be a good signing for any of them.

I like cane but beating Wallace dont cut it for me to be ranked

Yeah, not yet. He will need bigger wins to jump into the rankings.

Wed Sep 25, 2013 5:13 pm

Mikal wrote:Have you guys ever thought of doing a top 10 P4P type list? Like the best fighters in order no matter of the weight class as a way to rank who the best of the best are globally?

It was mentioned on here once. There was a Sherdog thread as well about a year ago or so for top P4P outside UFC.

Wed Sep 25, 2013 5:13 pm

MR.WILLIE wrote:

MR.WILLIE wrote:

CDF47 wrote:

Realidea wrote:Luiz Cane

If he gets another solid win, like his win this weekend, he could be a good addition to the 205 rankings. Wallace is a pretty good win but he was 1-4 in his last 5 fights before that over the last 4 years. Bellator,KSW, M-1, or ONE should pick him up. Would be a good signing for any of them.

I like cane but beating Wallace dont cut it for me to be ranked

As expected cane tko Wallace in rd one flying knee

Yup, I would have liked to see that fight.

Wed Sep 25, 2013 9:01 pm

CDF47 wrote:

MR.WILLIE wrote:

MR.WILLIE wrote:

CDF47 wrote:

Realidea wrote:Luiz Cane

If he gets another solid win, like his win this weekend, he could be a good addition to the 205 rankings. Wallace is a pretty good win but he was 1-4 in his last 5 fights before that over the last 4 years. Bellator,KSW, M-1, or ONE should pick him up. Would be a good signing for any of them.

I like cane but beating Wallace dont cut it for me to be ranked

As expected cane tko Wallace in rd one flying knee

Yup, I would have liked to see that fight.

http://www.mmafighting.com/2013/9/21/4755324/luiz-cane-finishes-rodney-wallace-with-a-flying-knee-at-stf

Thu Sep 26, 2013 5:32 pm

Realidea wrote:

CDF47 wrote:

MR.WILLIE wrote:

MR.WILLIE wrote:

CDF47 wrote:If he gets another solid win, like his win this weekend, he could be a good addition to the 205 rankings. Wallace is a pretty good win but he was 1-4 in his last 5 fights before that over the last 4 years. Bellator,KSW, M-1, or ONE should pick him up. Would be a good signing for any of them.

I like cane but beating Wallace dont cut it for me to be ranked

As expected cane tko Wallace in rd one flying knee

Yup, I would have liked to see that fight.

http://www.mmafighting.com/2013/9/21/4755324/luiz-cane-finishes-rodney-wallace-with-a-flying-knee-at-stf

Excellent. Thank you.

Damn that was a nice KO.

Sat Sep 28, 2013 8:16 am

Should Okami be number 1, 2, or 3 ranked MW next month?

Sat Sep 28, 2013 8:22 am

CDF47 wrote:Should Okami be number 1, 2, or 3 ranked MW next month?

Third. The win streaks of Shlemenko and Khalidov should give them a superior ranking.

Sat Sep 28, 2013 8:25 am

CDF47 wrote:Should Okami be number 1, 2, or 3 ranked MW next month?

Third IMO

Sat Sep 28, 2013 8:27 am

But I'll say this, mamed has been facing low level opponents and shlemenko loose to Lombard a guy okami already beat! So I'm rethinking my position and yushin has a case to be #1

Sat Sep 28, 2013 8:42 am

^Good points wekka and willie.

Since Okami is coming off a loss (TKO loss in the first round at that) and Shlemenko and Khalidov are on big winning streaks, I also think it makes most sense to put Okami at number 3.

Sat Sep 28, 2013 9:05 am

Mutapcic was going to enter the rankings next month after Roger Gracie dropped off but Okami bumped him back out. After his WSOF fight coming up we can get him back in.

Sun Sep 29, 2013 9:41 am

KSW has new HW champion - Bedorf. That would drop Graham again.

Sun Sep 29, 2013 12:13 pm

A few 2 cents:

Heavyweight
*Derrick Mehmen's victory over Rolles Gracie at WSOF should enter him into the "Other Contenders" list.

Light Heavyweight
*Jason Jones should come under the "Other Contenders" list with his win over Max Nunes at BAMMA.

Middleweight
* Jay Silva's upset of Materla should get him a spot in the rankings.
* I wouldn't put Okami at #3, I'd put him at #6 at best, under Ramazan Emeev, Jay Silva and Michal Materla since he is coming off a loss in my opinion. But that's up to you of course.
* Bruno Santos signed with the UFC

Lightweight
*Rick Hawn is back at Welterweight
*Vuyusile Colossa should be put into the rankings with his win over #7 ranked Boku

Sun Sep 29, 2013 12:14 pm

CDF47 wrote:KSW has new HW champion - Bedorf. That would drop Graham again.

I likebedorf a lot but I dont think beating an old man like nastula ranks him ahead of graham IMO

Sun Sep 29, 2013 12:18 pm

Sonatine wrote:A few 2 cents:

Heavyweight
*Derrick Mehmen's victory over Rolles Gracie at WSOF should enter him into the "Other Contenders" list.

Light Heavyweight
*Jason Jones should come under the "Other Contenders" list with his win over Max Nunes at BAMMA.

Middleweight
* Jay Silva's upset of Materla should get him a spot in the rankings.
* I wouldn't put Okami at #3, I'd put him at #6 at best, under Ramazan Emeev, Jay Silva and Michal Materla since he is coming off a loss in my opinion. But that's up to you of course.
* Bruno Santos signed with the UFC

Lightweight
*Rick Hawn is back at Welterweight
*Vuyusile Colossa should be put into the rankings with his win over #7 ranked Boku

Agree with you with mehmen and jones!

Don't agree with your okami point, even coming of a loss to jacare, okami will beat emeev,materla and silva

Don't agree with colossa a 5/4 record? No way

Also materla is overated how in the world silva 9-8 is going to be ranked, Sam alvey 20-5 just destroy him, and Elvis mutapcic destroy alvey and its not ranked

Sun Sep 29, 2013 12:47 pm

MR.WILLIE wrote:

CDF47 wrote:KSW has new HW champion - Bedorf. That would drop Graham again.

I likebedorf a lot but I dont think beating an old man like nastula ranks him ahead of graham IMO

Yeah, that's a good point. We can give the nod to Graham.

Sun Sep 29, 2013 12:51 pm

Sonatine wrote:A few 2 cents:

Heavyweight
*Derrick Mehmen's victory over Rolles Gracie at WSOF should enter him into the "Other Contenders" list.

Light Heavyweight
*Jason Jones should come under the "Other Contenders" list with his win over Max Nunes at BAMMA.

Middleweight
* Jay Silva's upset of Materla should get him a spot in the rankings.
* I wouldn't put Okami at #3, I'd put him at #6 at best, under Ramazan Emeev, Jay Silva and Michal Materla since he is coming off a loss in my opinion. But that's up to you of course.
* Bruno Santos signed with the UFC

Lightweight
*Rick Hawn is back at Welterweight
*Vuyusile Colossa should be put into the rankings with his win over #7 ranked Boku

Mehmen is right up there but I think Graham should get the nod above him. Mehman and Bedorf are basically number 16 and 17 right outside the ranks.

Jones for sure will enter the rankings next month replacing Nunes. New BAMMA champ deserves a spot there.

Silva will get a top ten ranking with his win over Materla as the new KSW champ.

I think Okami deserves the number 3 spot.

Thanks for the info. on Santos. He was going to drop out next month due to new fighters ranked at MW.

Hawn will be moved back to the WW rankings.

Colossa will get a top 10 ranking next month due to his win over Boku. Boku will be dropping down a bit.

Thanks for the input.

Sun Sep 29, 2013 6:08 pm

Jay Silva is NOT the new champion. The fight was a non-title bout.

Sun Sep 29, 2013 8:28 pm

LOL at putting Jay Silva ahead of Okiami

Mon Sep 30, 2013 1:34 am

CDF47 wrote:Mutapcic was going to enter the rankings next month after Roger Gracie dropped off but Okami bumped him back out. After his WSOF fight coming up we can get him back in.

Mutapcic should be there ahead of Mario Miranda, guseinov, cooper

Mon Sep 30, 2013 1:36 am

And if jay silva enters next month, Sam alvey should be there after knocking his ass out in mfc! And alvey loose to Elvis, both of those guys should be ranked ahead of Miranda, guseinov and cooper for sure

Wed Oct 02, 2013 2:38 pm

wekka wrote:Jay Silva is NOT the new champion. The fight was a non-title bout.

Yeah, just found out about that. Makes no sense. He will be higher ranked with the win though.

Wed Oct 02, 2013 2:39 pm

Realidea wrote:LOL at putting Jay Silva ahead of Okiami

Okami will be 3 and Silva will be 7.

Wed Oct 02, 2013 2:40 pm

MR.WILLIE wrote:

CDF47 wrote:Mutapcic was going to enter the rankings next month after Roger Gracie dropped off but Okami bumped him back out. After his WSOF fight coming up we can get him back in.

Mutapcic should be there ahead of Mario Miranda, guseinov, cooper

If he wins his WSOF fight coming up he will jump in the contenders, possibly to number 13 or so.