UFC's New Anti-Doping Policy
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- Hamilcar
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UFC's New Anti-Doping Policy
Fri Jun 05, 2015 9:21 pm
So we all know that the UFC hired a third party to do random,year round testing of every fighter on their roster with two year bans for offenders.
What does Global-MMA think of this?
What does Global-MMA think of this?
- stu3ufc
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Re: UFC's New Anti-Doping Policy
Fri Jun 05, 2015 10:16 pm
it's a good thing.... not sure if USADA are any good though.
Hope UFC doesnt keep shit private like they did with jones testing for coke
Hope UFC doesnt keep shit private like they did with jones testing for coke
- Heretic
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Re: UFC's New Anti-Doping Policy
Fri Jun 05, 2015 10:49 pm
it's a good thing.... way to many juicers out there
- TeamJohnPerrettiModerator
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Re: UFC's New Anti-Doping Policy
Sat Jun 06, 2015 12:48 am
Two year ban for first time offenders seems too tough.
Im ok with 10 months the first time. Second time two years.
Im ok with 10 months the first time. Second time two years.
Re: UFC's New Anti-Doping Policy
Sat Jun 06, 2015 1:36 am
Its grest harsh penalty gets tge point accross it wont be tolerated.
- Rizin=PRIDEFCModerator
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Re: UFC's New Anti-Doping Policy
Sat Jun 06, 2015 7:42 am
20 questions regarding the new UFC & USADA drug testing program
1. Who will ultimately pay the highest price for financing UFC’s new drug testing program? The fighters?
2. Will the improvement in drug testing level the playing field or will it create a competitive disadvantage with top fighters being able to afford their own designer drugs?
3. Why did UFC decide on working with USADA as a partner and not with Dr. Margaret Goodman & VADA?
4. How many more fighters would UFC catch using VADA-style testing as opposed to USADA-style testing protocols?
5. Given USADA’s behavior in handling Erik Morales’ failed drug test, can USADA be fully trusted to handle test failures the right way?
6. How compatible will UFC’s drug testing program with USADA be in relation to the drug testing programs set up by various state athletic commissions, including California (which is on its way to implementing its own out-of-competition program)?
7. If missing a Nevada commission drug test can cost you years in suspension, how can this be reconciled with USADA’s policy of three missing tests = a test failure?
8. Given that UFC is implementing their own company drug testing program in addition to the drug testing done by state athletic commissions, can UFC use a failed drug test for negotiating leverage with a top fighter in order to take a pay cut in exchange for the failed result not going public?
9. UFC & USADA will suspend a fighter for one year if they test positive for marijuana metabolites. However, Nevada’s punishment for a marijuana test failure can be 18 months or longer for repeat offenders. Whose punishment do you go with if a fighter fails both a USADA and NSAC drug test for marijuana metabolites? Concurrent or stacked suspensions?
10. In international sport, there is a court of appeal regarding drug testing. What administrative recourse does a fighter have after failing a UFC company drug test? Arbitration in a UFC-friendly venue?
11. How do you define “aggravating circumstances” for a failed drug test in a statutory manner?
12. How will UFC suspend a fighter who doesn’t fail a drug test but gets caught when arrested with drugs?
13. How you do resolve conflicts regarding Therapeutic Use Exemptions between the TUEs USADA grants and the hall passes from athletic commissions? (E.G. Fighters fails state athletic commission drug test, proclaims a TUE from USADA for permission to use a certain drug)
14. How many top athletes outside the MMA world will want to come and fight in UFC if they think the sport is cleaner? Conversely, how many fighters or future prospects will avoid fighting in UFC due to the new drug testing program?
15. Will UFC force fighters to sign new contracts (like they did after PRIDE acquisition) with modified contractual language to request permission for this new drug testing program? What if a fighter currently under contract says “no”? Can that fighter petition a Vegas court for declaratory relief and become a free agent? Arbitration?
16. If a fighter fails a UFC/USADA drug test and is given a suspension longer than the time left on that fighter’s contract, is such a suspension enforceable a) legally in court and/or b) with all the various state athletic commissions?
17. Will fighters be tested with the same drug screens or will certain fighters be tested for certain drugs and other fighters tested differently?
18. Why was Jeff Novitzky hired by UFC if USADA is the agency running UFC’s drug testing program?
19. Who will see the actual USADA drug testing results besides UFC? Will all positive test results be released to the public? Given that USADA is working for UFC and not for an athletic commission, how will the public be able to access all results given that it is done by a private, not public entity? The honor results with whatever is posted online?
20. If a fighter wishes to appeal a drug test result and has to appeal the result in Las Vegas, are the fighters inherently at a disadvantage due to how many attorneys have worked for the Fertittas in the past and therefore can’t take on clients due to conflicts of interest considerations?
http://www.fightopinion.com/2015/06/03/15-questions-ufc-usada-drug-testing/
1. Who will ultimately pay the highest price for financing UFC’s new drug testing program? The fighters?
2. Will the improvement in drug testing level the playing field or will it create a competitive disadvantage with top fighters being able to afford their own designer drugs?
3. Why did UFC decide on working with USADA as a partner and not with Dr. Margaret Goodman & VADA?
4. How many more fighters would UFC catch using VADA-style testing as opposed to USADA-style testing protocols?
5. Given USADA’s behavior in handling Erik Morales’ failed drug test, can USADA be fully trusted to handle test failures the right way?
6. How compatible will UFC’s drug testing program with USADA be in relation to the drug testing programs set up by various state athletic commissions, including California (which is on its way to implementing its own out-of-competition program)?
7. If missing a Nevada commission drug test can cost you years in suspension, how can this be reconciled with USADA’s policy of three missing tests = a test failure?
8. Given that UFC is implementing their own company drug testing program in addition to the drug testing done by state athletic commissions, can UFC use a failed drug test for negotiating leverage with a top fighter in order to take a pay cut in exchange for the failed result not going public?
9. UFC & USADA will suspend a fighter for one year if they test positive for marijuana metabolites. However, Nevada’s punishment for a marijuana test failure can be 18 months or longer for repeat offenders. Whose punishment do you go with if a fighter fails both a USADA and NSAC drug test for marijuana metabolites? Concurrent or stacked suspensions?
10. In international sport, there is a court of appeal regarding drug testing. What administrative recourse does a fighter have after failing a UFC company drug test? Arbitration in a UFC-friendly venue?
11. How do you define “aggravating circumstances” for a failed drug test in a statutory manner?
12. How will UFC suspend a fighter who doesn’t fail a drug test but gets caught when arrested with drugs?
13. How you do resolve conflicts regarding Therapeutic Use Exemptions between the TUEs USADA grants and the hall passes from athletic commissions? (E.G. Fighters fails state athletic commission drug test, proclaims a TUE from USADA for permission to use a certain drug)
14. How many top athletes outside the MMA world will want to come and fight in UFC if they think the sport is cleaner? Conversely, how many fighters or future prospects will avoid fighting in UFC due to the new drug testing program?
15. Will UFC force fighters to sign new contracts (like they did after PRIDE acquisition) with modified contractual language to request permission for this new drug testing program? What if a fighter currently under contract says “no”? Can that fighter petition a Vegas court for declaratory relief and become a free agent? Arbitration?
16. If a fighter fails a UFC/USADA drug test and is given a suspension longer than the time left on that fighter’s contract, is such a suspension enforceable a) legally in court and/or b) with all the various state athletic commissions?
17. Will fighters be tested with the same drug screens or will certain fighters be tested for certain drugs and other fighters tested differently?
18. Why was Jeff Novitzky hired by UFC if USADA is the agency running UFC’s drug testing program?
19. Who will see the actual USADA drug testing results besides UFC? Will all positive test results be released to the public? Given that USADA is working for UFC and not for an athletic commission, how will the public be able to access all results given that it is done by a private, not public entity? The honor results with whatever is posted online?
20. If a fighter wishes to appeal a drug test result and has to appeal the result in Las Vegas, are the fighters inherently at a disadvantage due to how many attorneys have worked for the Fertittas in the past and therefore can’t take on clients due to conflicts of interest considerations?
http://www.fightopinion.com/2015/06/03/15-questions-ufc-usada-drug-testing/
- backdoor to zuffa
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Re: UFC's New Anti-Doping Policy
Sat Jun 06, 2015 11:01 am
- stu3ufc
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Re: UFC's New Anti-Doping Policy
Sat Jun 06, 2015 12:23 pm
I dont trust those at the top between 2 corrupt organisations they could easily taint a sample and set a fighter up who speaks out against zuffa or whatever.
- Hamilcar
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Re: UFC's New Anti-Doping Policy
Sat Jun 06, 2015 1:56 pm
That's what I was waiting on. You always have to ask why did they choose who they chose. I still fully expect to see destroyed samples and faked tests. We have already seen how the UFC feels about PEDs: They don't care as long as you make them money. They have defended TRT and hid test results until after the tickets and PPV have been payed for.
I am still trying to stay positive about the whole thing. At the very least, it sends the message across that PEDs are not to be tolerated.
I can't wait to hear Eddie Goldman's take on the whole thing.
- Adax
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Re: UFC's New Anti-Doping Policy
Sat Jun 06, 2015 2:51 pm
This topic should be retitled to "YouEffSee's New Hide-The-Dopers Policy".
- stu3ufc
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Re: UFC's New Anti-Doping Policy
Sat Jun 06, 2015 3:43 pm
AudaxSynth wrote:
This topic should be retitled to "YouEffSee's New Hide-The-Dopers Policy".
NOTHING TO SEE HERE
- Rizin=PRIDEFCModerator
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Re: UFC's New Anti-Doping Policy
Sat Jun 06, 2015 9:21 pm
I think that big stars of UFC who bring money will be notified when "random" test is coming while "small fish" will get cought and that is it ...
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Re: UFC's New Anti-Doping Policy
Sat Jun 13, 2015 12:48 am
This makes the UFC a less desirable place for fighters.
Between this and Reebok who knows.
Between this and Reebok who knows.
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