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Mon Sep 14, 2015 7:55 am




(Photo of Mayweather and Berto, Esther Lin/Showtime. Photo of Zerafa on stretcher, Suzanne Teresa/Premier Boxing Champions.)

On this edition of No Holds Barred, host Eddie Goldman discusses Floyd Mayweather's unanimous decision victory over Andre Berto on September 12, which upped his record to 49-0 with 26 knockouts, and which Mayweather said is the final fight of his career. Among the topics are the brilliance of Mayweather's defense while still landing a significant amount of punches, the controversy over his stylish technique which some fans brand as "boring", how different cultures view aesthetics and technique in boxing, American culture and vulgarity, what constitutes an exciting fight, how Mayweather has been an artist in the ring, why many people dislike him, why he wants to retire for good from boxing without suffering permanent brain damage, and much more.

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Also, No Holds Barred is available through iTunes.

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Mon Sep 14, 2015 8:33 am
Floyd is at best 48-1.

He wasn't DQ'd against Judah because he is Floyd Mayweather and NSAC is corrupt at hell.

Castillo also beat him. But bad decisions happen.

Floyd was injured in that fight, you can look up his suspension report on boxrec (if they still have the feature), he was medically suspended after the fight, so it was a legitimate excuse. Castillo still won 8 rounds.

The Judah fight, he absolutely should have been DQ'd. Sorry, but rules are rules.

This fight was a stinkfest, as with many Floyd fights, and I literrally scored it 6-6.

I'd watch it again, but I don't want to fall asleep just now.

I'll listen to your program later, when I'm out and about, as I do.

I know you are a big Floyd fan.

One contradiction I find in your support for Floyd; you are so anti-Zuffa, and against their promotion of 'anti-social values'.

Yet you support Floyd, who has also created a brand around the promotion of 'anti-social values'.

I am so happy that Floyd is retired, and I hope to the sun that he never fights again, and that better yet still, he gets out of boxing altogether (the latter isn't as likely).
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Mon Sep 14, 2015 8:33 am
Oh wait, I'm just a hater, though.

I almost forgot that part of it.

(Not saying you think that, Eddie. Just I'd be called that in some circles.)
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Mon Sep 14, 2015 8:34 am
PS, I rate Roy Jones, Bernard Hopkins, and Oscar Dela Hoya (in that order) ahead of Floyd, all time.

Floyd is a solid 15-20, arguably.
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Mon Sep 14, 2015 8:41 am
Listen to the show. I was very clear on a lot of Floyd's anti-social crap, although this was more about him as a fighter.

Floyd was not part of the brawl in the Judah fight. Zab, his dad Yoel, and Roger Mayweather were, and were all suspended.

When I watched Mayweather-Castillo 1 on TV, I thought Castillo won. I called up writers who were ringside, and they said they had Floyd winning because he blocked much of what Castillo threw, which was not evident on TV.

Floyd is ahead of Oscar, who lost many big fights. I don't know how to rank guys in Sugar Ray Robinson's era who fought every few weeks and wore horsehair gloves with boxers today. But Floyd is up there, although obviously not TBE.
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Mon Sep 14, 2015 9:03 am
I will listen Eddie, definitely. Just don't have time right now. I listen when I'm out, and my friend is about to come over, and things like that. I will post my response later. I wasn't posting in the context of your program, more in a general sense.

I don't think Floyd morally deserved to lose the Judah fight due to actions of another.

But, his team is his team.

I have a bitter taste in my mouth over Molina-Kirkland.

Then it turned out that due to the rules of the fight, Molina actually should have been saved by the bell, if I am not mistaken.

His trainer dipped into the ring, saw the count, and dipped out, in probably one second flat.

They disqualified him, and he was dominating the fight, up until the knockdown; and was well up on the cards.

Roger Mayweather jumps into the ring and attempts to assault Zab Judah, in the middle of the round, sparking a miniature riot, and Floyd doesn't get disqualified, because (in my opinion) he is Floyd Mayweather and NSAC is corrupt as hell.

The first Castillo fight was a bad decision. Bad decisions happen in boxing. For example, Salido-Gonzales 2 was a pretty bad decision. Salido clearly dominated the fight.

I have respect for Floyd, I think he is well past his prime, but he still has the ability to fight at the top level.

I honestly scored it 6-6.

If I had to pick a winner with a gun to my head, it would've been Floyd.

There were a lot of close rounds.

Still, watching the fight and scoring every round, I came to 6-6.

Berto did little for a lot of the rounds, but Floyd did even less.

I rate punching a guy in the shoulder a few times higher than laying on the ropes, and taking punches only to the shoulder.

They both certainly had moments.

It wasn't actually the worst fight I've seen. In my last post, I was partially projecting some opinions I've read (I admit it). But my opinions are still what they are.
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Tue Sep 15, 2015 2:55 am
I just had the chance to listen.

Not a bad show.

Nothing much more to say.

We might talk of finer points in a beerhall or something, but all around pretty good.

Thanks Eddie, we are all thankful to have you.
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