ONE Championship: Immortal Pursuit - Askren vs. Aoki - November 24 (OFFICIAL DISCUSSION)

One FC  57
August 5, 2017
Singapore Indoor Stadium
Kallang, Singapore

Main Card:
Ben Askren (17-0)      vs.          (39-7) Shinya Aoki  
Main Event |  Title Fight | Welterweight | 170 lbs (77 kg)

Adrian Pang (22-10)    vs.             (8-2) Amir Khan  
Co-Main Event | Lightweight | 155lbs (70 kg)

Leandro Issa (14-6)     vs.     (12-1) Dae Hwan Kim  
Main Card | Bantamweight | 135 lbs (61 kg)

Kai Wen Li (6-3)          vs.     (8-1) Ahmed Mujtaba  
Main Card | Featherweight | 145 lbs (66 kg)

Pooja Tomar (2-1)        vs.           (6-0) Tiffany Teo  
Main Card | Female Strawweight | 115 lbs (52 kg)

Gina Iniong (6-2)          vs.  (16-10) Mei Yamaguchi  
Main Card | Female Atomweight | 105 lbs (47 kg)

For the 1st time in ONE history, two athletes from the same team will go to battle for a world title. In what will be a ferocious contest between two great white sharks, Shinya Aoki (39-7) and Ben Askren (17-0) have decided to lay it all on the line. Win or lose, this fight will be Ben's last. Ben has made the decision to retire after this fight to become an executive at ONE. Also, Angela Lee (8-0)  and Mei Yamaguchi (16-10) have agreed to what will arguably be the most anticipated rematch in the history of martial arts in Asia.

Askren vs. Aoki, NICE!

Sucks Askren is retiring though.

Great matchup, though indeed a surprising announcement on Askren's retirement.

Too bad to see him go. That said, at least he's not the most exciting fighter, so I won't miss his fights as much as I otherwise might.

I still enjoy his fights and all, but we all know what I mean here.

nodogoshi wrote:Great matchup, though indeed a surprising announcement on Askren's retirement.

Too bad to see him go. That said, at least he's not the most exciting fighter, so I won't miss his fights as much as I otherwise might.

I still enjoy his fights and all, but we all know what I mean here.

True, he's not the most entertaining fighter.

This is one worth ordering; huge fight.

This is a huge fight.

Askren smashed Aoki quick.

CDF47 wrote:Askren smashed Aoki quick.

That was amazing. I wish Askren would stick around, at least get to 20-0. I would love to know how far he could go on this winning streak.

Where would folks rank Ben in the welterweight all time RANKINGS. https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=1584698831553309&id=200515209971685 no a fighter should not have to compete in the ufc to be an all time great. Some of the comments you have to be in the ufc or else you suck and you have to be a yes man and a arse kisser.

Hamilcar wrote:

CDF47 wrote:Askren smashed Aoki quick.

That was amazing.  I wish Askren would stick around, at least get to 20-0.  I would love to know how far he could go on this winning streak.

I know, I hope he continues fighting.

westcott123 wrote:Where would folks rank Ben in the welterweight all time RANKINGS. https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=1584698831553309&id=200515209971685 no a fighter should not have to compete in the ufc to be an all time great. Some of the comments you have to be in the ufc or else you suck and you have to be a yes man and a arse kisser.

Behind GSP

westcott123 wrote:Where would folks rank Ben in the welterweight all time RANKINGS. https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=1584698831553309&id=200515209971685 no a fighter should not have to compete in the ufc to be an all time great. Some of the comments you have to be in the ufc or else you suck and you have to be a yes man and a arse kisser.

That's really close. I would put him at number one or two with GSP. I think I might even have him top off GSP because I think between the two, Askren would win.

Hamilcar wrote:

westcott123 wrote:Where would folks rank Ben in the welterweight all time RANKINGS. https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=1584698831553309&id=200515209971685 no a fighter should not have to compete in the ufc to be an all time great. Some of the comments you have to be in the ufc or else you suck and you have to be a yes man and a arse kisser.

That's really close.  I would put him at number one or two with GSP.  I think I might even have him top off GSP because I think between the two, Askren would win.

The guy does have some of the best wrestling in any division and Ben is a better wrestler then gsp who relys more on being explosive to get his takedown,gsp has the better stand up from what I heard he trains with Tyrone Woodley and he has trouble stuffing Bens take downs.

My top 5
1 gsp
2 matt Hughes
3 Ben askren
4 nick Diaz
5 Douglas Lima
I put gsp and Matt as 1 and 2 they're the more accomplished 2 at welterweight. In my opinion a person shouldn't get a goat status just cause they won a ufc belt. Prime example shogun yes he won the light heavyweight championship but that 2005 pride fc middle weight grand prix is and will be the bigger accomplishment.

^^ not saying shogun not an all time great his the goat lhw. As for Aoki he belongs in the top 10 of light weight greats though I would put him behind these fighters
Penn,gomi,Alvarez, Melendez, chandler,Pettis,Henderson.

westcott123 wrote:My top 5
1 gsp
2 matt Hughes
3 Ben askren
4 nick Diaz
5 Douglas Lima
I put gsp and Matt as 1 and 2 they're the more accomplished 2 at welterweight. In my opinion a person shouldn't get a goat status just cause they won a ufc belt. Prime example shogun yes he won the light heavyweight championship but that 2005 pride fc middle weight grand prix is and will be the bigger accomplishment.

Hughes and Askren is a tough call for the second spot of all time greats.