Ben Askren vs Andrey Koreshkov Fight Video - Bellator 97

fka wrote:Andrey you pooor idiot why would you face an Olympic calibur wrestler and not bring in someone to help with wrestling..

While his striking is good he's far from a ko artist it was a bad call.I'm not sure he would have beat askren because of a wrestler in camp but he would have hsf experience in the positions and could have been more game.

fka wrote:Andrey you pooor idiot why would you face an Olympic calibur wrestler and not bring in someone to help with wrestling..

While his striking is good he's far from a ko artist it was a bad call.I'm not sure he would have beat askren because of a wrestler in camp but he would have hsf experience in the positions and could have been more game.

Dagwood wrote:

fka wrote:Minakov sambo is solid but not complete his takedowns are good but predictable and you definantely see the difference in his sport sambo compared to combat sambo he doesn't use strikes to get close or setup takedowns.

I like minakov but he's not ready for elite level guys yet.

Wasn't until the 3rd was he able to keep Martinez down and I like he went for finish but he had too as it would have been a draw possibly even a win fir Martinez(judging =impossible to predict)

Comparing minakovs ground control vs askren isn't close

1) askren takes you down right away keeps you there the whole fight and there's nothing you can do to even get into guard.

Minakov looked great against the gassed Martinez but the first 2 he couldn't get him down and when he did it was short lived.

2) askren has great level changes and takedown technique period.he can shoot quick and snatch a leg or simply telegraph it and still get the takedown not sure I've ever seen him fail.

Minakov possesses great sambo but he still is figuring how to use it properly with better head movement and using strikes to setup takedowns he could be deadly but for now he has some glaring holes.

You should watch a lot of Minakov's fights in full. Your assessment on a lot of his game & skill-level TD'ing and ground control are off IMO. Against Martinez everything he looked really flat. Not the guy below of in his other fights. The guy had an off night. Even GSP or Anderson has had those. Minakov's other fights and his grappling pedigree with Sport Sambo & world-class Judo simply do not lie. 

While he's nowhere near the striker Fedor was, he's a better stronger grappler. I'm not saying submissions yet. But his wrestling control is phenomenal. Fedor never approached this. His GnP is very good. Very good. 

TD's are too predicate??? He doesn't set up TD's closing the distance with big punches that land to clinch , single-leg/double-legs, or clinch to Judo trips or throws??? I don't think so. You're judging one fight. 

Watch all of his fights and then come back with your stances on some of the things you said here.

Minakov does not look flat or off below... Nor did he in his other fights. Nor did he look like he had anything to work on but his striking technically. You can't learn the raw power he has though. It will only get better with his striking technique. One of his punches has... and will continue to end a lot of his fights.

Askren and GSP have proven you don't have to demonstrate great striking , or any, in a fight to become a champion and dominate. At HW Vitaly already has the kind of ground/wrestling/GnP skills to utilize the same type Askren/GSP strategy. Only he 'will' and pound out a whole lot of HW's on the ground. The difference is GSP pounding out a lot of people on the ground... that ain't gonna happen. Askren if he continues with what he showed last night won't do that either.

Watch this fight and then all of the other fights I posted and see if your assessment is the same fka.


 


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