Tatsuya Kawajiri signs with UFC, wants on January card in Singapore

KSW wrote:

IQ Wrestler wrote:They had plenty of chances and no one offered him anything. It's not his or ZUFFA's fault

Do you know exactly what offers he got from other promotions? I´m pretty sure other promotions want him and tried to get him.

They probably low balled him. Would you sign for less?

wekka wrote:

KSW wrote:

IQ Wrestler wrote:They had plenty of chances and no one offered him anything. It's not his or ZUFFA's fault

Do you know exactly what offers he got from other promotions? I´m pretty sure other promotions want him and tried to get him.

They probably low balled him. Would you sign for less?

Of course they don´t have enough money to outbid Zuffa and this is what I´ve been talking about for years. It´s fucked up that Zuffa can outbid every other promotion for top fighters and this has to change right now. If all fans and mma sites stop supporting Zuffa and start supporting other promotions the mma scene will change drastically in a matter of months.

That´s why we created G-MMA.

You want MMA Communism, basically?

IQ Wrestler wrote:You want MMA Communism, basically?

You have been here from the beginning and you know what we want. This is a place for fans who want something else than the Zuffa version of mma. I shouldn´t have to explain this to you guys.  

I'm just trolling man.
But how does Kawa signing change anything? He not been fighting regularly, he's no ones champion. The fans who follow other orgs aren't going to stop, Kawa joining another org, wont bring any UFC only fans.

If anything, in this case it's a good thing, hopefully he does well and people go back and watch his old fights.

IQ Wrestler wrote:I'm just trolling man.
But how does Kawa signing change anything? He not been fighting regularly, he's no ones champion. The fans who follow other orgs aren't going to stop, Kawa joining another org, wont bring any UFC only fans.

If anything, in this case it's a good thing, hopefully he does well and people go back and watch his old fights.

Yeah I will watch and enjoy his fights in UFC. I´m just disappointed how these awesome fighters disappear from the promotions I love. I want good fighters to leave UFC for other promotions, not the other way around.

Good fighters leave, new good fighters pop up

KSW wrote:

wekka wrote:

KSW wrote:

IQ Wrestler wrote:They had plenty of chances and no one offered him anything. It's not his or ZUFFA's fault

Do you know exactly what offers he got from other promotions? I´m pretty sure other promotions want him and tried to get him.

They probably low balled him. Would you sign for less?

Of course they don´t have enough money to outbid Zuffa and this is what I´ve been talking about for years. It´s fucked up that Zuffa can outbid every other promotion for top fighters and this has to change right now. If all fans and mma sites stop supporting Zuffa and start supporting other promotions the mma scene will change drastically in a matter of months.

That´s why we created G-MMA.

It's not your job to worry about that shit. It's the promoters. I've said this a bunch here. This is a place where I expect to appreciate all of MMA. Not just Zuffa, or "global" entities.

SRC wrote:

KSW wrote:

wekka wrote:

KSW wrote:

IQ Wrestler wrote:They had plenty of chances and no one offered him anything. It's not his or ZUFFA's fault

Do you know exactly what offers he got from other promotions? I´m pretty sure other promotions want him and tried to get him.

They probably low balled him. Would you sign for less?

Of course they don´t have enough money to outbid Zuffa and this is what I´ve been talking about for years. It´s fucked up that Zuffa can outbid every other promotion for top fighters and this has to change right now. If all fans and mma sites stop supporting Zuffa and start supporting other promotions the mma scene will change drastically in a matter of months.

That´s why we created G-MMA.

It's not your job to worry about that shit. It's the promoters. I've said this a bunch here. This is a place where I expect to appreciate all of MMA. Not just Zuffa, or "global" entities.

If you don´t get it by now you will never get it. We´re fighting the good fight and we will keep doing it. No other site/forum stands up for the sport.

KSW wrote:

SRC wrote:

KSW wrote:

wekka wrote:

KSW wrote:Do you know exactly what offers he got from other promotions? I´m pretty sure other promotions want him and tried to get him.

They probably low balled him. Would you sign for less?

Of course they don´t have enough money to outbid Zuffa and this is what I´ve been talking about for years. It´s fucked up that Zuffa can outbid every other promotion for top fighters and this has to change right now. If all fans and mma sites stop supporting Zuffa and start supporting other promotions the mma scene will change drastically in a matter of months.

That´s why we created G-MMA.

It's not your job to worry about that shit. It's the promoters. I've said this a bunch here. This is a place where I expect to appreciate all of MMA. Not just Zuffa, or "global" entities.

If you don´t get it by now you will never get it. We´re fighting the good fight and we will keep doing it. No other site/forum stands up for the sport.

Standing up for the sport doesn't mean trying to derail Zuffa with forum posts. You guys want to support MMA but how many people on this site actually ordered VTJ3, Pancrase, or the DEEP card? I'm guessing I'm the only one who actually supported all 3.

Think that Kawa signing with the UFC is a good thing , the unified rules are good for him and i hope some magic happens and he ko's everyone all the way to gold

Hope he does well in UFC. He's a tough opponent for anyone at 145.

SRC wrote:

KSW wrote:

SRC wrote:

KSW wrote:

wekka wrote:They probably low balled him. Would you sign for less?

Of course they don´t have enough money to outbid Zuffa and this is what I´ve been talking about for years. It´s fucked up that Zuffa can outbid every other promotion for top fighters and this has to change right now. If all fans and mma sites stop supporting Zuffa and start supporting other promotions the mma scene will change drastically in a matter of months.

That´s why we created G-MMA.

It's not your job to worry about that shit. It's the promoters. I've said this a bunch here. This is a place where I expect to appreciate all of MMA. Not just Zuffa, or "global" entities.

If you don´t get it by now you will never get it. We´re fighting the good fight and we will keep doing it. No other site/forum stands up for the sport.

Standing up for the sport doesn't mean trying to derail Zuffa with forum posts. You guys want to support MMA but how many people on this site actually ordered VTJ3, Pancrase, or the DEEP card? I'm guessing I'm the only one who actually supported all 3.

You do understand how one sided most of the English speaking MMA message boards are towards the Zuffa product, right? How many other forums are out there right now telling when Asian and Euro events start for different time zones? You act as if information can't support the global MMA scene, that's crap. Spending cash isn't the only way to support something you care about. In fact not spending cash is what we want to see from people who only watch Zuffa products. You know one Zuffa PPV is about the cost of supporting all those 3 JMMA organizations you just mentioned, so if a fan decided against supporting UFC they could get way more MMA for their buck. The fact is people in English speaking MMA sites either aren't aware of that fact or have been misinformed and conditioned to think UFC is just the way all MMA can be.

If you even care to know I missed Pancrase, bought VTJ 3rd, and didn't have enough money at the time for DEEP(because not everyone has the salary of a fancy BUSINESSMAN  ).

SRC wrote:

KSW wrote:

SRC wrote:

KSW wrote:

wekka wrote:

KSW wrote:Do you know exactly what offers he got from other promotions? I´m pretty sure other promotions want him and tried to get him.

They probably low balled him. Would you sign for less?

Of course they don´t have enough money to outbid Zuffa and this is what I´ve been talking about for years. It´s fucked up that Zuffa can outbid every other promotion for top fighters and this has to change right now. If all fans and mma sites stop supporting Zuffa and start supporting other promotions the mma scene will change drastically in a matter of months.

That´s why we created G-MMA.

It's not your job to worry about that shit. It's the promoters. I've said this a bunch here. This is a place where I expect to appreciate all of MMA. Not just Zuffa, or "global" entities.

If you don´t get it by now you will never get it. We´re fighting the good fight and we will keep doing it. No other site/forum stands up for the sport.

Standing up for the sport doesn't mean trying to derail Zuffa with forum posts. You guys want to support MMA but how many people on this site actually ordered VTJ3, Pancrase, or the DEEP card? I'm guessing I'm the only one who actually supported all 3.

First of all you don´t know anything about how many members order PPVs. Second we have thousands of visitors and they read our stuff so we´re making a big difference. G-MMA is not just a forum, it´s a movement and in the long run other forums/sites will follow us and support the fighters not just one private owned company. It´s up to you If you don´t want to make a difference. You seem to be happy with having one disrespectful private owned company in charge of mma.

KSW wrote:

SRC wrote:

KSW wrote:

SRC wrote:

KSW wrote:Of course they don´t have enough money to outbid Zuffa and this is what I´ve been talking about for years. It´s fucked up that Zuffa can outbid every other promotion for top fighters and this has to change right now. If all fans and mma sites stop supporting Zuffa and start supporting other promotions the mma scene will change drastically in a matter of months.

That´s why we created G-MMA.

It's not your job to worry about that shit. It's the promoters. I've said this a bunch here. This is a place where I expect to appreciate all of MMA. Not just Zuffa, or "global" entities.

If you don´t get it by now you will never get it. We´re fighting the good fight and we will keep doing it. No other site/forum stands up for the sport.

Standing up for the sport doesn't mean trying to derail Zuffa with forum posts. You guys want to support MMA but how many people on this site actually ordered VTJ3, Pancrase, or the DEEP card? I'm guessing I'm the only one who actually supported all 3.

First of all you don´t know anything about how many members order PPVs. Second we have thousands of visitors and they read our stuff so we´re making a big difference. G-MMA is not just a forum, it´s a movement and in the long run other forums/sites will follow us and support the fighters not just one private owned company. It´s up to you If you don´t want to make a difference. You seem to be happy with having one disrespectful private owned company in charge of mma.

I know a majority of people didn't order it, because I was logged on and checked to see who was on during these events. If it's an iPPV, chances are you'll be at your computer and on a website at some point. As for me being fine with Zuffa on top, I don't know how many times I must say this, your reading comprehension seems to be abysmal at this point. It's not about who's on top, it's about other companies not making the proper investments to go create competition for the UFC. It has nothing to do with this false movement you think you're creating. It's not about ideals of  a forum, it's about money, events, and fighters, something which neither you nor I have any of when it comes to the MMA landscape. I buy every non Zuffa PPV. Whether it's DEEP, Pancrase, VTJ, OneFC, you name it I will order it because my money will help that business grow. It goes beyond an obscure website posting articles that people will look over. You need to actually do something instead of giving free ad space to someone like Legend or M-1 or whoever you guys are talking to. If you really wanted to help you'd do promotional events (for money don't do it for free) to help create exposure for these companies you seemingly love so much.

AudaxSmoke wrote:

SRC wrote:

KSW wrote:

SRC wrote:

KSW wrote:Of course they don´t have enough money to outbid Zuffa and this is what I´ve been talking about for years. It´s fucked up that Zuffa can outbid every other promotion for top fighters and this has to change right now. If all fans and mma sites stop supporting Zuffa and start supporting other promotions the mma scene will change drastically in a matter of months.

That´s why we created G-MMA.

It's not your job to worry about that shit. It's the promoters. I've said this a bunch here. This is a place where I expect to appreciate all of MMA. Not just Zuffa, or "global" entities.

If you don´t get it by now you will never get it. We´re fighting the good fight and we will keep doing it. No other site/forum stands up for the sport.

Standing up for the sport doesn't mean trying to derail Zuffa with forum posts. You guys want to support MMA but how many people on this site actually ordered VTJ3, Pancrase, or the DEEP card? I'm guessing I'm the only one who actually supported all 3.

You do understand how one sided most of the English speaking MMA message boards are towards the Zuffa product, right? How many other forums are out there right now telling when Asian and Euro events start for different time zones? You act as if information can't support the global MMA scene, that's crap. Spending cash isn't the only way to support something you care about. In fact not spending cash is what we want to see from people who only watch Zuffa products. You know one Zuffa PPV is about the cost of supporting all those 3 JMMA organizations you just mentioned, so if a fan decided against supporting UFC they could get way more MMA for their buck. The fact is people in English speaking MMA sites either aren't aware of that fact or have been misinformed and conditioned to think UFC is just the way all MMA can be.

If you even care to know I missed Pancrase, bought VTJ 3rd, and didn't have enough money at the time for DEEP(because not everyone has the salary of a fancy BUSINESSMAN ).

I guess it's the message boards fault that Zuffa has capitalized on the current market too right? Is it the fact people speak English that are the problem? Your argument has too many holes and not enough base. People don't give a shit about anything outside of Zuffa because nobody gives them a reason too. Look at Strikeforce or the WEC, they were coming on strong before Zuffa bought them out. Now nobody cares because nobody is willing to take the time to invest, or not sell to Zuffa. It has nothing to do with "English speakers" or message boards. Those will always have circle jerk discussions about what is popular. Another thing, people who post on Sherdog or any other crap forum aren't even .05% of people who actually watch MMA. Lastly, if you can't afford 15$ that's not my problem. Make the sacrifices, we've all been there. It's not like I was handed everything on a silver platter.

We´re a global mma hype machine and we will keep going no matter what you say SRC. We fight the good fight and should do it to. Zuffa is the cancer of mma and we´re the cure.

SRC wrote:

AudaxSmoke wrote:

SRC wrote:

KSW wrote:

SRC wrote:It's not your job to worry about that shit. It's the promoters. I've said this a bunch here. This is a place where I expect to appreciate all of MMA. Not just Zuffa, or "global" entities.

If you don´t get it by now you will never get it. We´re fighting the good fight and we will keep doing it. No other site/forum stands up for the sport.

Standing up for the sport doesn't mean trying to derail Zuffa with forum posts. You guys want to support MMA but how many people on this site actually ordered VTJ3, Pancrase, or the DEEP card? I'm guessing I'm the only one who actually supported all 3.

You do understand how one sided most of the English speaking MMA message boards are towards the Zuffa product, right? How many other forums are out there right now telling when Asian and Euro events start for different time zones? You act as if information can't support the global MMA scene, that's crap. Spending cash isn't the only way to support something you care about. In fact not spending cash is what we want to see from people who only watch Zuffa products. You know one Zuffa PPV is about the cost of supporting all those 3 JMMA organizations you just mentioned, so if a fan decided against supporting UFC they could get way more MMA for their buck. The fact is people in English speaking MMA sites either aren't aware of that fact or have been misinformed and conditioned to think UFC is just the way all MMA can be.

If you even care to know I missed Pancrase, bought VTJ 3rd, and didn't have enough money at the time for DEEP(because not everyone has the salary of a fancy BUSINESSMAN ).

I guess it's the message boards fault that Zuffa has capitalized on the current market too right? Is it the fact people speak English that are the problem? Your argument has too many holes and not enough base. People don't give a shit about anything outside of Zuffa because nobody gives them a reason too. Look at Strikeforce or the WEC, they were coming on strong before Zuffa bought them out. Now nobody cares because nobody is willing to take the time to invest, or not sell to Zuffa. It has nothing to do with "English speakers" or message boards. Those will always have circle jerk discussions about what is popular. Another thing, people who post on Sherdog or any other crap forum aren't even .05% of people who actually watch MMA. Lastly, if you can't afford 15$ that's not my problem. Make the sacrifices, we've all been there. It's not like I was handed everything on a silver platter.

Would you not agree Zuffa gained it's primary money after acquiring the UFC from audiences in the USA? Most of the people who live there speak English, that's my line of thinking. I feel you're looking at the average consumer who wouldn't spend the time going on an internet forum to look for information. That's fair, I feel we'll keep going in circles though because it comes down to other organizations can't compete with Zuffa's level of advertising and media control yet. I agree with you that they have capitalized on the market here in the USA. That's why Bellator and WSOF need the support more so those orgs can try and give people a reason to care which you mention no one is doing. Strikeforce and WEC were good but those started as regional California shows, it's amazing they flourished as well as they did but realistically they weren't going to out-gun Zuffa anytime soon(and never got a chance since they were bought and absorbed). You're right no one is willing to invest super huge to compete with Zuffa in the current states because everyone saw what happened with Affliction. WSOF is doing it good I think, starting pretty modest and slowly building up. Anyways I guess obviously G-MMA can't reach those average consumers(until the commercials finally air  ) but we can help be a beacon for those who want to seek alternatives and look for information(in English  ).

And I was just teasing dude, don't get your businessman ego bruised. Just relating that different people have their reasons for when and what they can watch.

Also SRC I respect that you buy as much non-Zuffa MMA as possible! You should feel awesome about that man, no sarcasm. Keep it up!

^ Thanks, I'm not offended by any means. I'm actually really humble, but I may come across as abrasive because when I type I'm used to typing documents that are straight forward. So I'm sorry if it seems rude. I would love to support more.

KSW wrote:We´re a global mma hype machine and we will keep going no matter what you say SRC. We fight the good fight and should do it to. Zuffa is the cancer of mma and we´re the cure.

Here's the thing, I love the fact you want to hype MMA around the globe. It's an amazing thing. But the whole Zuffa is cancer down with the system attitude is that it puts off more people than you influence with your positive view of the sport.