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Mauro tweets reply to my Fedor comments
Tue Apr 24, 2012 11:12 pm
I have always thought Mauro was the most knowledgeable MMA announcer statistics & MMA history-wise. He was there for a lot of it. He is actually a real broadcaster & sports announcer by trade. Hard to come by in MMA today. Since the SF buyout and Zuffa's now vice-like grip on big-time MMA, Mauro has been saying a few things that have been troubling to me.
I know most all in the MMA industry who rely on Zuffa to make a living are not gonna want to step on their toes for fear of reprisal that could put them out of business. I think there is a way though to diplomatically state your real opinions respectfully while not dishonoring one of the greatest athletes of the sport. Scott Coker does this wonderfully with everybody. I have a lot of respect for him for it and I feel sorry for the hand he's been dealt.
It is extremely sad to see virtually ALL of the MMA 'only' media simply reprint Dana and the UFC's propaganda. This doesn't happen in any other major pro sport. There is an independent sports media that doesn't really on one league or team for survival. The media there regularly critique the players,teams, owners, etc... holding them accountable to the fans. Those are the guys that fund their sports.
As time rolls on even Mauro now is infected by zuffa media strong-arming. I know he has to swallow his pride keep towing the zuffa-line as his radio & TV shows rely on access to the UFC. I'm just saddened though because he was really good for ALL MMA world-wide over his career up until now.
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Re: Mauro tweets reply to my Fedor comments
Tue Apr 24, 2012 11:28 pm
so he's not horribly excited about Fedor, a legend in the twilight of his career, fighting Pedro Rizzo, a glass jawed fighter who is quite honestly way past his prime, meaning that he's 'infected with zuffa-media strong arming' ... ?
Do you re read things to try and sound less ridiculous, or is it just a 'put down blatantly dumb things, post long responses when questioned' kind of approach?
Do you re read things to try and sound less ridiculous, or is it just a 'put down blatantly dumb things, post long responses when questioned' kind of approach?
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Re: Mauro tweets reply to my Fedor comments
Tue Apr 24, 2012 11:30 pm
there's being a fan and then there's blind support. Just because you aren't jumping for joy about Fedor fighting Pedro Rizzo doesn't mean you aren't a fan, it means you're not horribly excited about him fighting someone who hasn't fought for 2 years, who's last opponent was Ken Shamrock, has no chin and is way past his prime.
Re: Mauro tweets reply to my Fedor comments
Tue Apr 24, 2012 11:53 pm
Misowaman wrote:so he's not horribly excited about Fedor, a legend in the twilight of his career, fighting Pedro Rizzo, a glass jawed fighter who is quite honestly way past his prime, meaning that he's 'infected with zuffa-media strong arming' ... ?
Do you re read things to try and sound less ridiculous, or is it just a 'put down blatantly dumb things, post long responses when questioned' kind of approach?
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Re: Mauro tweets reply to my Fedor comments
Tue Apr 24, 2012 11:53 pm
What is he talking about? Why would Fedor drop to 205lbs? He already is getting better training. He only says stuff like this hoping to keep his job.
Re: Mauro tweets reply to my Fedor comments
Tue Apr 24, 2012 11:53 pm
Misowaman wrote:there's being a fan and then there's blind support. Just because you aren't jumping for joy about Fedor fighting Pedro Rizzo doesn't mean you aren't a fan, it means you're not horribly excited about him fighting someone who hasn't fought for 2 years, who's last opponent was Ken Shamrock, has no chin and is way past his prime.
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Re: Mauro tweets reply to my Fedor comments
Wed Apr 25, 2012 12:19 am
It's ok to not be excited for the fight, I'm not because i can see it won't be an amazing match like Fedor vs CC, but he was a little arrogant there, basically saying it's garbage.
That's one of the problems in MMA today, when you're on top everybody loves you, when you're not you're shit in their eyes. There should at least be a little respect to the guys.
That's one of the problems in MMA today, when you're on top everybody loves you, when you're not you're shit in their eyes. There should at least be a little respect to the guys.
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Re: Mauro tweets reply to my Fedor comments
Wed Apr 25, 2012 12:48 am
^I'm just curious why Fedor gets bashed to pieces for fighting Rizzo while guys in the ufc get a free pass. All of these "elite" HWs get to fight guys like Kongo, Barry, Schaub etc who are no better than Rizzo and no one says a word because it's in the mystical ufc.
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Re: Mauro tweets reply to my Fedor comments
Wed Apr 25, 2012 2:07 am
Fedor vs. Rizzo is a better match than my first impression allowed me to initially visualize. It doesn't blow my s0cks off or anything but I wouldn't INTENTIONALLY miss the fight or event just to watch an bout from almost 7 years(as epic as it was). Mauro is just being soullessly snarky for the sake of it.
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Re: Mauro tweets reply to my Fedor comments
Wed Apr 25, 2012 2:20 am
I am not too happy about this fight since Rizzo has not fought in 2 years and the last time he fought top competition, Josh Barnett, he was finished in the 2nd round nearly 4 years ago. He was KO'd by Yvel in the 1st shortly after that and then won a decision against Monson. The Monson win was a decent win against a top 10 Global Non-Zuffa HW but it was 2 1/2 years ago.
I want to see Fedor fight top fighters outside Zuffa; such as, Konrad, Kharitonov (for DREAM title or ONE FC title), and Guram (for M-1 belt).
I want to see Fedor fight top fighters outside Zuffa; such as, Konrad, Kharitonov (for DREAM title or ONE FC title), and Guram (for M-1 belt).
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Re: Mauro tweets reply to my Fedor comments
Wed Apr 25, 2012 2:29 am
CAN SOMEBODY ASK HIM which other UFC HW fighter apart from Overeem and Hunt has a better group of striking/kickboxing trainers?
BECAUSE I FRANKLY DONT SEE CAIN, JDS, AND MIR TRAINING WITH A BETTER TRAINER THAN KICKBOXING LEGEND HOOST AND HIS TEAM FILLED WITH K-1 LEGENDS.
This is another Zuffa smear campaign saying that Fedor doesnt train with good trainers, that the media has swallowed.
BECAUSE I FRANKLY DONT SEE CAIN, JDS, AND MIR TRAINING WITH A BETTER TRAINER THAN KICKBOXING LEGEND HOOST AND HIS TEAM FILLED WITH K-1 LEGENDS.
This is another Zuffa smear campaign saying that Fedor doesnt train with good trainers, that the media has swallowed.
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Re: Mauro tweets reply to my Fedor comments
Wed Apr 25, 2012 2:34 am
Kinosis wrote:^I'm just curious why Fedor gets bashed to pieces for fighting Rizzo while guys in the ufc get a free pass. All of these "elite" HWs get to fight guys like Kongo, Barry, Schaub etc who are no better than Rizzo and no one says a word because it's in the mystical ufc.
So fighting a top former UFC great who is past his prime is BAD. White fighting a top former PRIDE great who is past their prime suddenly gets you in the TOP TEN? Cain, JDS, Brock made their name fighting past their prime PRIDE fighters.
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Re: Mauro tweets reply to my Fedor comments
Wed Apr 25, 2012 2:38 am
looks like Mauro is back on the booze and drugs
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Re: Mauro tweets reply to my Fedor comments
Wed Apr 25, 2012 3:36 am
Mauro is on the zuffa payroll, no doubt. I didn´t hear him talking like this about CroCop when he fought similar competition in the UFC. Rizzo and Fedor are legends and no one should miss this fight.
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Re: Mauro tweets reply to my Fedor comments
Wed Apr 25, 2012 6:28 am
Johan Lofgren wrote:Mauro is on the zuffa payroll, no doubt. I didn´t hear him talking like this about CroCop when he fought similar competition in the UFC. Rizzo and Fedor are legends and no one should miss this fight.
I didnt hear them talk like this when UFC fighters fought Nog, CroCop, and Randy.
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Re: Mauro tweets reply to my Fedor comments
Wed Apr 25, 2012 9:59 am
Johan Lofgren wrote:Mauro is on the zuffa payroll, no doubt. I didn´t hear him talking like this about CroCop when he fought similar competition in the UFC. Rizzo and Fedor are legends and no one should miss this fight.
Something funny about this video is that all these zombies say MMA has evolved so much over the years. This fight was from around 2001 and it is a vastly better HW fight than almost anything we see now days. Compare this to Carwin vs Lesnar where Carwin is gassing out in 4 minutes and Lesnar is running from punches. MMA has devolved if anything.
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Re: Mauro tweets reply to my Fedor comments
Wed Apr 25, 2012 12:55 pm
So fighting a top former UFC great who is past his prime is BAD. White fighting a top former PRIDE great who is past their prime suddenly gets you in the TOP TEN? Cain, JDS, Brock made their name fighting past their prime PRIDE fighters.
no.... they didn't... what?
JDS made his name by beating Fabricio Werdum (In his prime, then top contender), he faced ONE faded legend in Cro Cop, but most people don't even acknowledge the Cro Cop fight.
Cain made his name off beating Kongo. He got a title shot off beating Nogueira, but he became known by beating Kongo.
The only PRIDE veteran that Brock faced was Heath Herring.
so please, try again.
Mauro is on the zuffa payroll, no doubt.
... because he isn't jumping for joy that Fedor is fighting Pedro Rizzo? How exactly does that mean he's on the 'zuffa payroll'? He's not saying anything negative about Fedor, he's saying that he isn't ecstatic about Fedor fighting a guy that hasn't fought for 2 years, and is way past his prime.
Something funny about this video is that all these zombies say MMA has evolved so much over the years.
The only thing that has really evolved is the training. If you don't think that training has evolved DRASTICALLY, you're kidding yourself.
More advanced training doesn't make you a better fighter, not at all, but it's most certainly helpful.
Rizzo and Fedor are legends and no one should miss this fight.
Where is the line drawn between the appeal of two legends fighting being positive, and it just being sad? Sure, it's not the worst fight that can be made, but let's be honest, other than Fedor fighting, there is nothing truly appealing about the fight. I'll watch it, because I like Fedor, but I'm not going to shit on people that say they aren't excited and aren't going to watch it, because I understand why.
Mauro said that he was going to watch Fedor fight Cro Cop in 2005 instead, to remember Fedor when he was great, instead of watching him fight Pedro Rizzo. If that's insulting, then you need to re-evaluate who's really doing more damage to the sport.
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Re: Mauro tweets reply to my Fedor comments
Wed Apr 25, 2012 1:03 pm
M-1 > Zuffa
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Re: Mauro tweets reply to my Fedor comments
Wed Apr 25, 2012 2:01 pm
Obviously Fedor is in the later stages of his career but thats no reason not to watch him, kind of odd for Mauro to say that.
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Re: Mauro tweets reply to my Fedor comments
Wed Apr 25, 2012 2:14 pm
The Wanderlei Vitor matchup is even worse than this so the UFC can go suck a cock
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Re: Mauro tweets reply to my Fedor comments
Wed Apr 25, 2012 3:31 pm
lol Misowaman's post is a total fail in every way and he doesn't even see it. It's all been covered a million times.
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Re: Mauro tweets reply to my Fedor comments
Wed Apr 25, 2012 4:01 pm
okay Kinosis, if my post was such a fail, please, point out how it was a fail. don't worry, i'll wait.
Nothing I said was wrong, absolutely none of it.
Nothing I said was wrong, absolutely none of it.
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Re: Mauro tweets reply to my Fedor comments
Wed Apr 25, 2012 5:04 pm
^All of it is a joke. I've posted about virtually everything you said before, if I get around to it I will but it's a lot of nonsense. You may continue to wait until I get around to you.
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Re: Mauro tweets reply to my Fedor comments
Wed Apr 25, 2012 6:02 pm
Misowaman wrote:okay Kinosis, if my post was such a fail, please, point out how it was a fail. don't worry, i'll wait.
Nothing I said was wrong, absolutely none of it.
I liked your post. If you disagree with something just point what it's wrong. Last time you've been trying to offend people and fighting all over, no wonder why people like to pick on you. I understand where you're going, and if you keep it that way like your previous post it's more than fine, being right or not.
Re: Mauro tweets reply to my Fedor comments
Wed Apr 25, 2012 6:23 pm
Kinosis wrote:Johan Lofgren wrote:Mauro is on the zuffa payroll, no doubt. I didn´t hear him talking like this about CroCop when he fought similar competition in the UFC. Rizzo and Fedor are legends and no one should miss this fight.
Something funny about this video is that all these zombies say MMA has evolved so much over the years. This fight was from around 2001 and it is a vastly better HW fight than almost anything we see now days. Compare this to Carwin vs Lesnar where Carwin is gassing out in 4 minutes and Lesnar is running from punches. MMA has devolved if anything.
No doubt. I've been saying the UFC MMA product/brand/style is absolutely devolving. If Ultimate Fighting was played like it has been since @2008-09 form the beginning, the UFC would not be where it is today.
Zuffa is ultimately responsible for the quality of it's product. Just like any company. Let me tell you, Dana & the Fertittas have a lot of quality control issues with what their company has been producing for the last few years. They are the guys responsible, not the fighters.
Zuffa now has a stable full of intimidated/scared/oppressed/unhappy/undervalued/underpaid(relative-to-UFC revenue) fighters who fight in fear of losing, not to win. These guys are to stupid to understand this. It will be their downfall at some point.
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