No Holds Barred: John Perretti on the Real Origin of Mixed Martial Arts (Part Two)

On this edition of No Holds Barred, host Eddie Goldman presents the second of our two-part discussion with lifelong martial artist, former UFC and Battlecade Extreme Fighting matchmaker, TV commentator, and our senior correspondent, John Perretti (http://www.twitter.com/ACJohnPerretti).

We continue with our examination of the origin of the term "mixed martial arts" and the actual and often distorted and concealed history of the sport.

In 1980 in New York, John Perretti opened a martial arts school featuring what he called "Tao Jutsu Do", which he described at the time as "a mixed martial arts school". We discussed the many people who trained there, such as author and historian Dr. Peter Maguire.

"When I started Tao Jutsu Do, I started it off as a mixed martial arts school," said John Perretti in this interview. "We were grappling on hardwood floors, hardwood maple floors. We were doing knife-on-knife. I was doing knife-on-knife seminars for 20 years. We were doing everything and anything."

We also discussed the view held by some that the term "mixed martial arts" came from the Japanese phrase "Ishu Kakutogi Sen", which means heterogeneous combat sports fights. These were almost all fixed or worked pro "wrestling" matches in the 1970s involving some real martial artists against pro "wrestlers" like Antonio Inoki. We also discuss how the devolution of the once-real (more or less) professional catch-as-catch-can wrestling into fixed matches with pre-determined endings and various plots represented the triumph of corruption in that sport, and should not be emulated or supported in any way, or used as a model for real MMA.

In addition, we discussed the origin of Battlecade Extreme Fighting, what John Perretti wanted to accomplish with that pioneering organization which ran four shows from 1995 to 1997, some of the lessons of the battles to establish MMA as a sport and not a spectacle in the 1990s and after, and much more.

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Thanks, Eddie Goldman http://eddiegoldman.com

Looks like I'm falling behind, Eddie. Your last 3 shows all seem like must listen stuff.

I'll get caught up soon. Look forward to commenting hopefully.

Plenty of time to catch up on a lot of these shows. I leave today, Friday, for Europe until November 21. First to fILA headquarters in Switzerland, then FILA world championships of grappling, Pankration, and amateur MMA in Poland, then back to FILA HQ, then home. So I will not have a lot of time or even Internet access to post much if at all. But I am hoping that this is one hell of a trip. Merci!

Subscribing on iTunes makes keeping up with NHB a lot easier