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CagePotato: MMA Fans “Don’t Give a Flying F*ck” About the MMA Media (and That’s a Bad Thing) Empty CagePotato: MMA Fans “Don’t Give a Flying F*ck” About the MMA Media (and That’s a Bad Thing)

Sat Feb 15, 2014 5:33 am
By Matt Saccaro

A discussion about the MMA media surfaced on r/MMA recently, with the inflammatory title “Why do people on this subreddit refuse to acknowledge that the MMA media is bought and paid for?”

The OP (original poster for those unfamiliar with Internet lingo) linked our Shill ‘Em All series as proof of the media’s misdeeds, and also discussed Zach Arnold’s Fight Opinion piece about the connection between WSOF and Zuffa.

MMA fans responded with apathy and quips. Here three select comments:

1. “Sports journalism should be about the sport, they are covering UFC fighters and fights, you don’t need to be unbiased to write who won a fight and how it looked.

I personally don’t give a flying fuck about what did Dana White do today, so if someone is biased and reports only the good stuff that paints him in a good light or someone is shitting on him I don’t give a fuck either way.

My favorite writer is Jack Slack, and I don’t think he mentioned UFC-s promotional practice or what color DW-s shit is, I read him because he is very good at analyzing fights and fighters, if I wanted to know about contracts, pay and substance abuse I’d go read a real newspaper (or not, given the state of journalism in general).”

2. “Who the fuck cares? Mma media sucks because of blog spam and click baiting, not your bullshit.” And my personal favorite:

3. “Cagepotato are only bitter because they had their credentials pulled.”

There were many other comments (and Bleacher Report’s own Jeremy Botter made a guest appearance to dispel the whispers about the WSOF-Zuffa connection) but the three above—specifically the first two—summarize the general sentiment MMA fans had towards the MMA media. Some only care about what happens in the cage. Others really didn’t care much at all outside of maligning the copy + paste websites that litter the landscape.

Regarding the first comment about outside-the-cage stories not mattering: I’m tempted to call fight breakdowns a lost art in MMA, save for the fact that they’re everywhere come fight time. Extremely high quality ones, however, are harder to find. The Reddit commenter who mentioned Jack Slack is right. Slack is by far the greatest assessor of in-cage techniques that has graced the keyboard.

But most fans fail to realize that much of MMA takes place outside the Octagon. Contracts, fighter pay, fighter behavior, PEDs, and other matters have a tremendous impact on the sport. These issues need to be covered. If a fan doesn’t care about these problems, they’re viewing the sport through an Octagonal microscope. What happens during a fight simultaneously matters most and least and in MMA. The fight is the only reason for all the so-called trappings, yet the trappings have such an influence on the fight that they seemingly exceed it in importance and urgency. What’s a fight without promotion and marketing? What’s a fighter without a fair wage and a good contract? What’ll happen to the sport if the UFC doesn’t crack down on TRT? What if Dana White’s heavy-handedness backfires? Question like that matter. If the media isn’t objective about them, they won’t be answered properly, if at all. Abiding by a list of topics you’re not allowed to talk about doesn’t help anyone but Zuffa and the people who shill for them.

This isn’t to say that there’s no good MMA coverage. There’s lots. Recent examples include Brent Brookhouse’s work on the Jessica Eye drug test, as well as Luke Thomas’ criticism of poor fighter pay.

Fans not caring about this kind of stuff is disheartening. While some MMA fans are amazingly passionate and cool, the more vocal fans are awful. Look at their reaction to Tyler Manawaroa’s recent Instagram woes. As Bloody Elbow poster Nick Yidaris said, “the worst part of being an MMA fan is MMA fans”.

A sport’s perception reflects its fans. Is it any doubt then that when major news and culture websites finally give MMA some coverage, it’s usually negative.

Worshiping (or even liking) the media isn’t necessary. But paying attention to it, and reading about all the stories in MMA—not just fight breakdowns, live blogs, and post-event summaries—is crucial.

To harness my inner Dana White, DO YOU WANNA BE A FUCKIN’ MMA FAN? If so, you need to pay attention to everything that happens in MMA, including media matters. wrote:

http://www.cagepotato.com/mma-fans-dont-give-a-flying-fck-about-the-mma-media-and-thats-a-bad-thing/
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Sat Feb 15, 2014 8:21 am
Another thing mma fans don't give a fuck about is mma.

I don't mean that as an insult, just a fact.
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Sat Feb 15, 2014 9:01 am
We're real MMA fans. The people that call themselves "MMA fans" are in actuality, sports entertainment fans.
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Sat Feb 15, 2014 11:31 am
Because everyone in the MMA media who gets attention is a joke. Ariel Helwani truly doesn't know anything about the sport sans UFC. I bet that he couldn't even tell you who all has been announced for upcoming Bellator tournaments and THAT'S THE #2 ORG IN THE NATION lol. There are fans all over the world who are better qualified for his job than him, as far as knowledge. They just may not have the journalism degrees to flaunt.

Then you have Karyn Bryant who is awful too. ALL she does is kiss ass and lob softballs in her interviews. She seems like a straight up sycophant.

Then you have all these other followers who may not be as bad but they are still cherry picking what they report to not upset Big Bad Dana. There's a reason why nobody dropped names at that luncheon when Dana asked about fighters on PEDs. It's obviously because nobody wanted to get blacklisted.


Nice Jack Slack shout out though.
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Sat Feb 15, 2014 11:59 am
Controlling the MMA media was probably among the initial plans for Zuffa after purchasing UFC.
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Sun Feb 16, 2014 7:12 am
The MMA media do not represent our views on the sport. MMA journalists are slimy scumbags.

most of them are paid to cover this sport and have 0 fucking knowledge on it

They are biased towards zuffa or scared to speak out on zuffa in fear of credentials being pulled.


fuck the mma media

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Sun Feb 16, 2014 10:09 am
Of course no one gives a fuck. Because even the biggest Zuffa Zombie knows the shills are bought and paid for by the UFC.

I avoid most "MMA" sites because they're a crock of shit. They claim to cover "MMA", yet they only cover UFC. Adam is right. Ariel Helwani is probably the most well-known "MMA Journalist" but he doesn't cover anything but UFC. He doesn't cover Bellator (unless he's insulting them), doesn't cover WSOF, MFC, M-1 Global, DEEP, Cage Warriors, URCC, ONE FC, ROAD FC, BAMMA, King of the Cage, or anything else.

Sadly he's not the only one. Others only cover UFC and nothing else. Year end awards are 99% UFC related. Top 10 feature 99% UFC fighters. It's frustrating given the talent and products that get overlooked.
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Sun Feb 16, 2014 1:34 pm
stu3ufc wrote:The MMA media do not represent our views on the sport. MMA journalists are slimy scumbags.

most of them are paid to cover this sport and have 0 fucking knowledge on it

They are biased towards zuffa or scared to speak out on zuffa in fear of credentials being pulled.


fuck the mma media


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