Fedor Emelianenko vs Frank Mir Full Fight Video - Bellator 198

Fedors hip toss was the best part of the fight imo.

I agree, hip toss was great.

The hip toss was great but that left was sneaky and good. When you first watch the fight, you think the right maybe grazed him but then you see the replay and see that left really did Mir in.

Rocksoldier84 wrote:The hip toss was great but that left was sneaky and good. When you first watch the fight, you think the right maybe grazed him but then you see the replay and see that left really did Mir in.

For sure, it was the punches that led to the "W."

One of my new favorite fights of all time, up there with
randy vs big nog
big nog vs tim sylvia
fedor vs tim sylvia

Longtime Fan wrote:One of my new favorite fights of all time, up there with
randy vs big nog
big nog vs tim sylvia
fedor vs tim sylvia

Yeah, it's up there for me too. Great to see you here LTF!

Fedor using his grappling is what he was lacking so long, that throw triggered Mir so much that it was the beggining of the end. Stayed up till 7 am to watch this. No regrets

Dorch wrote:Fedor using his grappling is what he was lacking so long, that throw triggered Mir so much that it was the beggining of the end. Stayed up till 7 am to watch this. No regrets

Yeah, watching Fedor fight would be worth staying up until 7 am for. Just finished a Rizin marathon from 1:30 AM - 8:00 AM.

https://www.mmafighting.com/2018/5/5/17306132/is-it-possible-fedor-could-win-the-bellator-heavyweight-tournament#comments

What do people think? Can fedor win it all? I admit it would be nice to see him win it all it make a great comeback of sorts. Reading the comments they still go on about these new "well rounded" heavyweights that can beat  a prime fedor when will they learn? If there is one division that hasn't really evolved or hardly its heavyweight. Technically Francis Nganou is a new breed heavyweight the fact is Mark Coleman is more well rounded then him.

westcott123 wrote:https://www.mmafighting.com/2018/5/5/17306132/is-it-possible-fedor-could-win-the-bellator-heavyweight-tournament#comments

What do people think? Can fedor win it all? I admit it would be nice to see him win it all it make a great comeback of sorts. Reading the comments they still go on about these new "well rounded" heavyweights that can beat  a prime fedor when will they learn? If there is one division that hasn't really evolved or hardly its heavyweight. Technically Francis Nganou is a new breed heavyweight the fact is Mark Coleman is more well rounded then him.

I really hope he can. I see Mitrione as his toughest test if that one happens.

^^he is I think the main problem is that a guy like Matt who is big but he is also fast for a man his size yeah sure fedor can knock Matt out himself still the ground is were fedor has the advantage.

I don't know we're people are getting the idea fedor has a weak chin yes I know deterioration thing in 43 fights he has only been finished twice due to strikes no that tk one doesn't count plus Henderson and mitrione have knock out power. That punch that Fujita threw if that was jon Jones he would've done the Chicken dance too or if Fabio caught say DC would probably be queer Street too.

westcott123 wrote:https://www.mmafighting.com/2018/5/5/17306132/is-it-possible-fedor-could-win-the-bellator-heavyweight-tournament#comments

What do people think? Can fedor win it all? I admit it would be nice to see him win it all it make a great comeback of sorts. Reading the comments they still go on about these new "well rounded" heavyweights that can beat  a prime fedor when will they learn? If there is one division that hasn't really evolved or hardly its heavyweight. Technically Francis Nganou is a new breed heavyweight the fact is Mark Coleman is more well rounded then him.

Do they think Fedor is one dimensional? Sure some fighters he fought were but he wasn't and many of his opponents weren't. Who are these new fighters? Guys like Ngannou or those who can't stay healthy? They've been talking about "well rounded" heavyweights for ten years.

westcott123 wrote:^^he is I think the main problem is that a guy like Matt who is big but he is also fast for a man his size yeah sure fedor can knock Matt out himself still the ground is were fedor has the advantage.

I don't know we're people are getting the idea fedor has a weak chin yes I know deterioration thing in 43 fights he has only been finished twice due to strikes no that tk one doesn't count plus Henderson and mitrione have knock out power. That punch that Fujita threw if that was jon Jones he would've done the Chicken dance too or if Fabio caught say DC would probably be queer Street too.

That shot would have wobbled anyone.

Rocksoldier84 wrote:

westcott123 wrote:https://www.mmafighting.com/2018/5/5/17306132/is-it-possible-fedor-could-win-the-bellator-heavyweight-tournament#comments

What do people think? Can fedor win it all? I admit it would be nice to see him win it all it make a great comeback of sorts. Reading the comments they still go on about these new "well rounded" heavyweights that can beat  a prime fedor when will they learn? If there is one division that hasn't really evolved or hardly its heavyweight. Technically Francis Nganou is a new breed heavyweight the fact is Mark Coleman is more well rounded then him.

Do they think Fedor is one dimensional? Sure some fighters he fought were but he wasn't and many of his opponents weren't. Who are these new fighters? Guys like Ngannou or those who can't stay healthy? They've been talking about "well rounded" heavyweights for ten years.

Fedor has also fought his contemporaries when they were young and in their prime years until stipe beats his big nog and cro cop he will just the champion that beat a bunch of broken or past their prime fighters and a one dimensional Francis Nganou.

I will say this the zombies go on about of how fedor was only 33 when he lost to werdum and that is the prime years for a heavy were did that come from?.

westcott123 wrote:

Rocksoldier84 wrote:

westcott123 wrote:https://www.mmafighting.com/2018/5/5/17306132/is-it-possible-fedor-could-win-the-bellator-heavyweight-tournament#comments

What do people think? Can fedor win it all? I admit it would be nice to see him win it all it make a great comeback of sorts. Reading the comments they still go on about these new "well rounded" heavyweights that can beat  a prime fedor when will they learn? If there is one division that hasn't really evolved or hardly its heavyweight. Technically Francis Nganou is a new breed heavyweight the fact is Mark Coleman is more well rounded then him.

Do they think Fedor is one dimensional? Sure some fighters he fought were but he wasn't and many of his opponents weren't. Who are these new fighters? Guys like Ngannou or those who can't stay healthy? They've been talking about "well rounded" heavyweights for ten years.

Fedor has also fought his contemporaries when they were young and in their prime years until stipe beats his big nog and cro cop he will just the champion that beat a bunch of broken or past their prime fighters and a one dimensional Francis Nganou.

I will say this the zombies go on about of how fedor was only 33 when he lost to werdum and that is the prime years for a heavy were did that come from?.

Fedor screwed up in the Werdum fight. He jumped right into that triangle. I always wanted to see that rematch because I think Fedor takes out Werdum.

He did I do think fedor wins 9/10 OK 6/10 like I said before we know the responses if fedor won the werdum, silva, Henderson fights. Hell fedor could beat the devil himself and they would still say fedor is a can crusher scared of the ufc .

westcott123 wrote:He did I do think fedor wins 9/10 OK 6/10 like I said before we know the responses if fedor won the werdum, silva, Henderson fights. Hell fedor could beat the devil himself and they would still say fedor is a can crusher scared of the ufc .

Yeah, it doesn't matter what he does, they will still have something to say.

http://forums.sherdog.com/threads/fedor-was-ruined-as-soon-as-he-left-russian-top-team.3637435/

What are people opinions? I know the story fedor they were treating him and his brother like shit.

I do think fedor would be in the finals if he wins fantastic if he doesn't he made it to the finals. Yeah sure chael could grind out a victory he has the 2 wins over Wanderlei and Quinton let's be real the Quinton he beat was the not the Quinton that beat chuck down and the Wanderlei he beat wasn't the Wanderlei that was the most feared light heavyweight at the time. Don't get me wrong both are great wins on his record.

People seem to forget that fedor has a high submission rate of finishes people not on here else think that fedor is a striker which he isn't he comes from a grappling background judo Sambo.

Before the mirko fight he get you to the ground and pound the shit out of you.

This whole 3os is the heavyweight prime sorry we're did that come from? Example 2 fighters both the same age except one started competing when he was 18 and the other when he was 28. Now both are in their late 30s it is obvious that the person who stared at 28 will be fresher than the one who stared at 18 then you put the amount fights whether they held major titles.

westcott123 wrote:http://forums.sherdog.com/threads/fedor-was-ruined-as-soon-as-he-left-russian-top-team.3637435/

What are people opinions? I know the story fedor they were treating him and his brother like shit.

I do think fedor would be in the finals if he wins fantastic if he doesn't he made it to the finals. Yeah sure chael could grind out  a victory he has the 2 wins over Wanderlei and Quinton let's be real the Quinton he beat was the not the Quinton that beat chuck down and the Wanderlei he beat wasn't the Wanderlei that was the most feared light heavyweight at the time. Don't get me wrong  both are great wins on his record.

People seem to forget that fedor has a high submission rate of finishes people not on here else think that fedor is a striker which he isn't he comes from  a grappling background judo Sambo.

Before the mirko fight he get you to the ground and pound the shit out of you.

This whole 3os is the heavyweight prime sorry we're did that come from? Example 2 fighters both the same age except one started competing when he was 18 and the other when he was 28. Now both are in their late 30s it is obvious that the person who stared at 28 will be fresher than the one who stared at 18 then you put the amount fights whether they held major titles.

I think Fedor should smash Chael. I don't think he can grind out a win over Fedor. Yeah, that was a different Fedor prior to fighting Cro Cop.

Definitely a fighter's prime is going to vary based on many factors.

^^ one hundred percent Tyson Hopkins are 2 prime examples ^^ Fedor was definitely ahead of the pack during his time I laugh when they say today's heavyweight are more evolved exactly what makes them more evolved? With mma is it evolution or adaption or a combination of both?

I know I can ask them that all I would get is fedor ducked the ufc in his prime you need to get off his nuts. The only other media platform I use is Facebook man they hated me cause I asked the question they couldn't answer examples
1 fedor isn't the goat heavyweight
I asked who is provide reason why
2 pride had fake fights
So you were there when it happened?
3 pride was always inferior
If pride was always "inferior why would zuffa buy them out?..

They never did all I ever got was stupid snide remarks or they changed the subject. I guess everyone here always got something similar?

westcott123 wrote:I know I can ask them that all I would get is fedor ducked the ufc  in his prime you need to get off his nuts. The only other media platform I use is Facebook man they hated me cause I asked the question they couldn't answer examples
1 fedor isn't the goat heavyweight
I asked who is provide reason why
2 pride had fake fights
So you were there when it happened?
3 pride was always inferior
If pride was always "inferior why would zuffa buy them out?..

They never did all I ever got was stupid snide remarks or they changed the subject. I guess everyone here always got something similar?

1. If Fedor isn't the heavyweight GOAT, may I ask who is? Lesnar who didn't last ten fights? Carwin who didn't last fifteen and only had two good wins? Cain who can't stay healthy and misses years at a time? JDS who's prime was short? Miocic who beat good fighters but many were past their prime or limited?
2. PRIDE had fake fights but so did UFC and Pancrase. How come they don't bring them up? Also, what fights besides Takada/Coleman were fake? Which Fedor fights were fake and says who?
3. If PRIDE was inferior then why did Big Nog, Rampage, Shogun, & Werdum win UFC championships while Hunt challenged for the Interim Heavyweight Title and Overeem became a title contender? Why was Coleman the only UFC guy to win a PRIDE title/GP (and that was controversial since he didn't have to fight in the semifinals while Vovchanchyn did)? Why did Chuck Liddell not only struggle against Overeem but lost to Rampage Jackson in the semifinals of the 2003 Middleweight Grand Prix? Why did UFC spend millions on it and wanted it shut down?

Also, in Fedor's prime, UFC wasn't number 1, PRIDE was. If Fedor was a coward, he would've went to UFC in 2002. People need to accept that UFC wasn't always number 1. From at least 2000-2006, PRIDE was number one and it wasn't close. But what do I know? Beating Schilt, Herring, Nog 2x, Cro Cop, Coleman 2x, Randleman, Kohsaka, Hunt, and even gatekeepers like Fujita & Goodridge doesn't mean jackshit when he could've beat a washed up Tank Abbott, a washed up Kimo Leopoldo, Cabbage Correria, Wes Sims, Brandon Lee Hinkle, and Gan McGee.

westcott123 wrote:^^ one hundred percent Tyson Hopkins are 2 prime examples ^^ Fedor was definitely ahead of the pack during his time I laugh when they say today's heavyweight are more evolved exactly what makes them more evolved? With mma is it evolution or adaption or a combination of both?

At this point, there is not too much more evolution. Yeah, there has been a lot since the early UFCs but now things have slowed down as far as that goes.

westcott123 wrote:I know I can ask them that all I would get is fedor ducked the ufc  in his prime you need to get off his nuts. The only other media platform I use is Facebook man they hated me cause I asked the question they couldn't answer examples
1 fedor isn't the goat heavyweight
I asked who is provide reason why
2 pride had fake fights
So you were there when it happened?
3 pride was always inferior
If pride was always "inferior why would zuffa buy them out?..

They never did all I ever got was stupid snide remarks or they changed the subject. I guess everyone here always got something similar?

Oh yeah, I was fed much of the same on Sherdog.