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Tue Dec 17, 2013 8:00 pm
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This is a bad idea. In every way possible, this is a bad idea. Bol Noticias, the sports section of UOL.com.br, reports that Shooto 45 will feature a man vs. woman fight between Emerson Falcao of Nova Uniao and Juliana Velasquez of Team Noguiera. Before I get into this right away, there is a very real possiblity that this fight will not happen and this is just a publicity stunt. Emerson Falcao posted via Facebook on December 3, that he was injured and would not be competing in kickboxing again until next year. He has made no mention of this fight whatsoever. It may mean that this will be a Fedor vs. Aoki-esque exhibition or, perhaps, that he's not especially eager to promote this fight or that it's just not happening at all.

At this point I have to hope for the last one because there's absolutely no good that can come of this idea. Falcao, while 0-1 in MMA is a reasonably experienced kickboxer and muay thai fighter who will be fighting Velasquez at bantamweight in her professional debut. Even as a fairly dedicated feminist the idea of this fight makes me intensely uncomfortable.

If Velasquez wins (and I don't doubt that there are plenty of women in the world that can beat up plenty of men in the world) what's the upside? What does MMA as a community establish? I can't see any way forward that starts regularly putting on professional fights between men and women. For a sport that many consider to be pure spectacle and bloodsport the backlash could be crippling.

For the fighters themselves, no doubt Velasquez would get some brief praise for the win, but no one fight (especially on the regional circuit) is a true proving point of a career. Claudia Gadelha has already beat up several men on Brazilian television, but it's been her run of victories over other women that have gained her the current notoriety in her own division. Ediane Gomes has a pro win over a man only known as "Carlos," and has little notoriety even in the sport, because of it.

And, of course, for Falcao there is really nothing to be gained in this. Even taking the higher road of gender equality I can't imagine this is going to be a great source of personal pride. As an 0-1 fighter facing a 0-0 fighter there aren't any bragging rights to be gained. The loser can be dismissed as under-prepared as easily as the winner can be dismissed as having been gifted an easy fight.

That's not to say I see a situation where this could work better (there really isn't one), but the fact that both fighters are incredibly green in MMA adds to the feeling that neither of them has an actual upside for this fight beyond short term notoriety. Shooto president Andre Pederneiras (who is also the head trainer at Nova Uniao) told Combate that the fight may have some rule modifications, but will be contested within the Unified rules of MMA. And all told it really looks like he's trying to drum up some press for a card that otherwise isn't getting any. If that's the case I suppose he's succeeded, but it's a pretty ugly form of success.

http://www.bloodyelbow.com/2013/12/17/5220338/shooto-guy-vs-girl-fight-brazil-velasquez-vs-falcao-mma-news



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Tue Dec 17, 2013 8:05 pm
To be fair there's Army Combatives Tournaments that have been putting women against men for a long time but this is next level wackiness for pro MMA.
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Tue Dec 17, 2013 8:07 pm
This will be a black eye on the sport domestic violence in front of a crowd wow kinda like cops LOL.

I don't think its fair in any weightclass above 90 lbs LOL.

Woman cannot beat men sorry if I'm sounding sexist but in any weightclass above 90 lbs the strength difference is drastic.

Bad idea all around this is sure to bring back seg era ufc comparisons on being a human cock fight or bloodsport.
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Tue Dec 17, 2013 8:11 pm
Hey fka ever seen the Ediane Gomes underground fight?

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Tue Dec 17, 2013 8:13 pm
Hey not saying woman aren't bad ass but on a pro mma level I don't see many if any woman beating guys.
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Tue Dec 17, 2013 8:17 pm
So you saying you got Faber over Rousey?

Me too  Laughing 
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Tue Dec 17, 2013 8:51 pm
I cant believe Dede is doing this

shooto brazil is a legit org! WTF man? seriously?
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Tue Dec 17, 2013 9:30 pm
Yeah I got probably any 135 lb ufc Guy over rousey.

Not saying she couldn't roll or submit some guys but lets not play she would never get it to the ground.

Her striking is non existant would get murdered because unlike most female strikers male stand-up specialists have take down defense LOL.

Wmma on a whole is just getting into its second generation where they are just now evolving into 2 dimensional fighters(at most elite level)tho most ate still one dimensional with a half assed secondary skill.
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Tue Dec 17, 2013 9:33 pm
What the hell? First of all, for the love of god I hope this is just an exhibition.

Either way, I am completely 100% against this. What kind man takes this fight?

If this is real Shooto Brazil isn't even deserving of the Shooto brand name for putting on this shit.

What a freakshow.
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Tue Dec 17, 2013 9:47 pm
Ediene Gomes approves
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Tue Dec 17, 2013 10:07 pm
my brazilian friend is saying everyone is against it in brazil begging them not to do it
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Wed Dec 18, 2013 2:43 am
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Wed Dec 18, 2013 7:46 am
This is a fucking disgrace



this guy acting like this woman is a legit fighter
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Wed Dec 18, 2013 11:52 am
stu3ufc wrote:This is a fucking disgrace



this guy acting like this woman is a legit fighter

Oh. My. God. What. The. Hell.

As an MMA fan, this is embarrassing. Watching that made me so uncomfortable.

Like the question I keep wondering is 'why?' Why even do this? What's the point? I don't believe they can't find another man to fight this guy. Seems like they are just wanting publicity by putting on an freakshow.

I honestly hope this cute chick kicks this guys ass but more than likely, it's going to be a savage from the guy.

"I'm going for the knockout." What the in the actual fuck?
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Fri Dec 20, 2013 4:20 pm
Man vs. woman fight at Shooto 45 in Brazil was just a publicity stunt

An announced fight between a man and a woman at tonight’s Shooto 45 event in Brazil actually was a publicity stunt to raise awareness about domestic violence.

“I have participated in many fights, and for me it was a great pleasure this time to fight for such a noble cause,” stated Shooto promoter Andre Pederneiras in a press release. “Very many people suffer from this, and reporting it has the power to change this. It only depends on each person.”

The co-ed fight, a bantamweight match between Emerson Falcao (0-1) and Juliana Velasquez (0-0), stirred immediate controversy when it was announced earlier this week. Regulators condemned the promotion and claimed it wouldn’t happen.

Pederneiras, who is best known as the head trainer of UFC champs Jose Aldo and Renan Barao, said safety precautions would be followed and teased that a ruleset would be revealed.

But it was all a ruse.

While Falcao announced on Facebook that he was injured and couldn’t compete, Velasquez and her team talked up the bout as if it would happen.

“She really is in another level, and now is the best time to send that message, so we expect her to prove a point in the event,” rep Pedro Marques told MMAjunkie on Tuesday. “She has been training with men before, and it will not be new for her.”

According to the release, the bout was conceived by a Brazilian ad agency to promote a domestic violence hotline. The firm, Agency 3, enlisted the support of Shooto, the fighter’s MMA teams, and Combate Channel, which broadcasts the promotion’s events.

Shooto 45 takes place tonight in Rio de Janeiro. MMAFighting was the first to report the bout was a no-go.

http://mmajunkie.com/2013/12/man-vs-woman-fight-at-shooto-45-in-brazil-was-just-a-publicity-stunt/
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Fri Dec 20, 2013 4:33 pm
lmao attention whores.

In the end, I'm just glad it's not really happening.
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Fri Dec 20, 2013 11:31 pm
im all for global mma but after this fuck shooto brasil
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