RIZIN Bantamweight GP 1st Round Part 2 - October 15 (OFFICIAL DISCUSSION)

westcott123 wrote:He sure is it is great that Rizin has these up And comers Rizin is pride 2.0  . different subject if was doing Rizin weight division mine would look like this
Men
° heavy weight no limit
° middle weight 205
° welter weight 185
° light weight 170
° feather weight 155
° bantam weight 145
° fly weight 135
Women
Feather weight 155
Bantam weight 145
Flyweight 135
Straw weight 125
Atom weight 115

That how I would have it .

Looks pretty good. I would separate each weight class by 20 lbs starting at 125 lbs up to HW then Open Weight.

Dan Henderson and Kazushi Sakuraba were slated to participate in a special rules grappling bout on Oct. 15 for RIZIN Fighting Federation. A neck injury has forced Henderson out of the event, but former UFC light heavyweight champion Frank Shamrock will now face the Japanese legend Fukuoka, Japan.

Jerome Le Banner vs Roque Martinez  and King Reina vs Crystal Stokes  were added to the card as well.

Kingfedor wrote:
Dan Henderson and Kazushi Sakuraba were slated to participate in a special rules grappling bout on Oct. 15 for RIZIN Fighting Federation. A neck injury has forced Henderson out of the event, but former UFC light heavyweight champion Frank Shamrock will now face the Japanese legend Fukuoka, Japan.

Jerome Le Banner vs Roque Martinez  and King Reina vs Crystal Stokes  were added to the card as well.

Good additions and replacement.

CDF47 wrote:

Kingfedor wrote:
Dan Henderson and Kazushi Sakuraba were slated to participate in a special rules grappling bout on Oct. 15 for RIZIN Fighting Federation. A neck injury has forced Henderson out of the event, but former UFC light heavyweight champion Frank Shamrock will now face the Japanese legend Fukuoka, Japan.

Jerome Le Banner vs Roque Martinez  and King Reina vs Crystal Stokes  were added to the card as well.

Good additions and replacement.

It is a pity Dan's out this should be good though it sucks we never saw saku vs frank or saku vs hendo hell even hendo vs frank (I know they had a grappling type bout ) a pity we didn't see them in the ring or cage .

CDF47 wrote:

westcott123 wrote:He sure is it is great that Rizin has these up And comers Rizin is pride 2.0  . different subject if was doing Rizin weight division mine would look like this
Men
° heavy weight no limit
° middle weight 205
° welter weight 185
° light weight 170
° feather weight 155
° bantam weight 145
° fly weight 135
Women
Feather weight 155
Bantam weight 145
Flyweight 135
Straw weight 125
Atom weight 115

That how I would have it .

Looks pretty good.  I would separate each weight class by 20 lbs starting at 125 lbs up to HW then Open Weight.

Oh yeah .so like
Heavyweight unlimited
Middle weight 205
Welterweight 185
Light weight 165
Feather weight 145
Bantam weight 125
Women
145 feather weight
125 fly weight
105 atom weight

To. Be honest that is even better then the list I came up with it would certainty add huge depth plus it would make people fight at their natural weight.

Here is a question anyone can answer do people think A Rizin should follow the whole FIFA world cup sort of thing or B are they better of doing it the old way eg division champion their own rooster .To be honest I would like to see mma were a fighter can and be a champion in more then one organization ,bellator, Rizin champ, ksw jungle fight champ etc .

With Asian mma i would love to see the promoters of Rizin one fc road fc came together and do like a huge show and do a k1 dynamite type show not every year st least every couple of years

westcott123 wrote:

CDF47 wrote:

Kingfedor wrote:
Dan Henderson and Kazushi Sakuraba were slated to participate in a special rules grappling bout on Oct. 15 for RIZIN Fighting Federation. A neck injury has forced Henderson out of the event, but former UFC light heavyweight champion Frank Shamrock will now face the Japanese legend Fukuoka, Japan.

Jerome Le Banner vs Roque Martinez  and King Reina vs Crystal Stokes  were added to the card as well.

Good additions and replacement.

It is a pity Dan's out this should be good though it sucks we never saw saku vs frank or saku vs hendo hell even hendo vs frank (I know they had a grappling type bout ) a pity we didn't see them in the ring or cage .

It is a shame but at least they found Frank to replace him.

westcott123 wrote:

CDF47 wrote:

westcott123 wrote:He sure is it is great that Rizin has these up And comers Rizin is pride 2.0  . different subject if was doing Rizin weight division mine would look like this
Men
° heavy weight no limit
° middle weight 205
° welter weight 185
° light weight 170
° feather weight 155
° bantam weight 145
° fly weight 135
Women
Feather weight 155
Bantam weight 145
Flyweight 135
Straw weight 125
Atom weight 115

That how I would have it .

Looks pretty good.  I would separate each weight class by 20 lbs starting at 125 lbs up to HW then Open Weight.

Oh yeah .so like
Heavyweight unlimited
Middle weight 205
Welterweight 185
Light weight 165
Feather weight 145
Bantam weight 125
Women
145 feather weight
125 fly weight
105 atom weight

To. Be honest that is even better then the list I came up with it would certainty add huge depth plus it would make people fight at their natural weight.

Yeah, that's what I was thinking for weight classes. There is already 20 lbs between MW and LHW so they could just do that for all divisions.

westcott123 wrote:Here is a question anyone can answer do people think A Rizin should follow the whole FIFA world cup sort of thing or B are they better of doing it the old way eg division champion their own rooster .To be honest I would like to see mma were a fighter can and be a champion in more then one organization ,bellator, Rizin champ, ksw jungle fight champ etc .

With Asian mma i would love to see  the promoters of Rizin one fc road fc came together and do like a huge show and do a k1 dynamite type show not every year st least every couple of years

I'd like to see a combination where they have their own champs but also act as a world cup type organization working with everyone.

^^mma would be a lot better if the Major companies work together of course there will always be negative Nancy's who will say it won't work ^^

westcott123 wrote:^^mma would be a lot better if the Major companies work together of course there will always be negative Nancy's who will say it won't work ^^

Agreed

CDF47 wrote:

westcott123 wrote:^^mma would be a lot better if the Major companies work together of course there will always be negative Nancy's who will say it won't work ^^

Agreed

And we know who the negative Nancy's will be it would be bad translation this ufc fighter who many say is the pound for pound best might loose to this unknown fighter and I want to keep the illusion of ufc fighters being god like .

westcott123 wrote:

CDF47 wrote:

westcott123 wrote:^^mma would be a lot better if the Major companies work together of course there will always be negative Nancy's who will say it won't work ^^

Agreed

And we know who the negative Nancy's will be it would be bad translation  this ufc fighter who many say is the pound for pound best might loose to this unknown fighter and I want to keep the illusion of ufc fighters being god like .

Yeah, that'll always be the case it seems.

CDF47 wrote:

westcott123 wrote:Here is a question anyone can answer do people think A Rizin should follow the whole FIFA world cup sort of thing or B are they better of doing it the old way eg division champion their own rooster .To be honest I would like to see mma were a fighter can and be a champion in more then one organization ,bellator, Rizin champ, ksw jungle fight champ etc .

With Asian mma i would love to see  the promoters of Rizin one fc road fc came together and do like a huge show and do a k1 dynamite type show not every year st least every couple of years

I'd like to see a combination where they have their own champs but also act as a world cup type organization working with everyone.

http://forums.sherdog.com/threads/in-two-years-rizin-ff-will-be-the-premier-mma-organisation.3480689/

I thought post that to laugh at the butt hurt comments ufc is going down hill they don't accept that and some people think that if the died then mma would die if that is the case then mma is just a fad sport.

As with Rizin I do see it becoming a global player I don't know if it would become the premiere mma organization on earth I do see it in the future though with Rizin ff and every other organization like I said a fighter should be able to fight in multiple orgs .

Though personally I don't think any organization should be numero uno  you just have to look at the ufc to see the moronic fans they attract .

Just think how much better mma would be if people judged a fighter career based on competition, championship reign , instead of oh he/she didn't fight in the ufc overrated .

westcott123 wrote:

CDF47 wrote:

westcott123 wrote:Here is a question anyone can answer do people think A Rizin should follow the whole FIFA world cup sort of thing or B are they better of doing it the old way eg division champion their own rooster .To be honest I would like to see mma were a fighter can and be a champion in more then one organization ,bellator, Rizin champ, ksw jungle fight champ etc .

With Asian mma i would love to see  the promoters of Rizin one fc road fc came together and do like a huge show and do a k1 dynamite type show not every year st least every couple of years

I'd like to see a combination where they have their own champs but also act as a world cup type organization working with everyone.

http://forums.sherdog.com/threads/in-two-years-rizin-ff-will-be-the-premier-mma-organisation.3480689/

I thought post that to laugh at the butt hurt comments ufc is going down hill they don't accept that and some people think that if the died then mma would die if that is the case then mma is just a fad sport.

As with Rizin I do see it becoming a global player I don't know if it would become the premiere mma organization on earth I do see it in the future though with Rizin ff and every other organization like  I said a fighter should be able to fight in multiple orgs .

Though personally I don't think any organization should be numero uno  you just have to look at the ufc to see the moronic fans they attract .

Just think how much better mma would be if people judged a fighter career based on competition, championship reign , instead of oh he/she didn't fight in the ufc overrated .

Some of those comments are funny.

I just hope to see Rizin do well. Not sure they will out do UFC but who knows. Things change.

Would be great if people judged MMA fighters that way.

^^ that is true Rizin can push to be the biggest mma organization in Asia but when it comes to the west yeah it would get out done by ufc bellator pfl etc not to mention they would have to use unified rules.

westcott123 wrote:^^ that is true Rizin can push to be the biggest mma organization in Asia but when it comes to the west yeah it would get out done by ufc bellator pfl etc not to mention they would have to use unified rules.

So sad they would have to dumb themselves down to pussified rules. Then you got fans saying somebody will get killed by the steroid monsters doing soccer kicks.

Rocksoldier84 wrote:

westcott123 wrote:^^ that is true Rizin can push to be the biggest mma organization in Asia but when it comes to the west yeah it would get out done by ufc bellator pfl etc not to mention they would have to use unified rules.

So sad they would have to dumb themselves down to pussified rules. Then you got fans saying somebody will get killed by the steroid monsters doing soccer kicks.

Ironically they're the same ones who say easy fake fixed ref ear piece with Rizin ff I know the whole concept of the federation I do hope they build a rooster of their own .with the 20lb weight difference that cd47 came up with it would add depth plus make people fight at their natural weight class .

westcott123 wrote:^^ that is true Rizin can push to be the biggest mma organization in Asia but when it comes to the west yeah it would get out done by ufc bellator pfl etc not to mention they would have to use unified rules.

Yeah, JMMA needs JMMA rules.

7 days until RIZIN FF makes its first landing in the southern island of Japan, and the highly anticipated event has finally revealed the lineup with the total of 16 fights. The FUKUOKA audience will be treated with variety of fights from kick boxing bouts, legend’s grappling match, men and women’s GP fights, and straight up 10 minute round fights. 
 
The main and co main event will be aired live on Fuji Television, which will be the network’s first time to go live with RIZIN content. RIZIN’s biggest draws RENA and Tenshin Nasukawa has been assigned for the task. 
 
The rest of the world will be able to access the spectacle on FITETV, which will air the entire event LIVE. The commentary team for this event has been revealed as Chris Cordeiro and Anthony Birchak. Chris Cordeiro has been involved with the MMA industry from the beginning, and is extremely experienced and knowledgeable with the Japanese fight scene. Anthony Birchak is a RIZIN fighter, who was part of the ongoing Bantam weight tournament will be looking to give the viewers the insight of RIZIN and the technical action happening in the ring.
 
Confirmed bouts:
 
[Women’s Super-Atom weight GP opening round]
16. RENA vs Andy Nguyen
 
[Super fight]
15. Tenshin Nasukawa vs Yamato Fujita
 
[Grappling match]
14. Kazushi Sakuraba vs Frank Shamrock]
 
[Super Fight]
13. Akiyo Wicky Nishiura vs Andy Souwer 12. KING Reina vs Crystal Stokes
 
[Bantamweight GP qualification bout]
11. Tatsuya Kawajiri vs Gabriel Oliveira
 
[Bantamweight GP opening round Bracket B]
10. Shintaro Ishiwatari vs Akhmed Musakaev
9. Jae Hoon Moon vs Kevin Petshi
8. Manel Kape vs Erson Yamamoto 
 
[Super Fight]
7. Jerome Le Bannder vs Roque Martinez
 
[Women’s Super-Atom weight GP opening round]
6. Alyssa Garcia vs Maria Oliveira
5. Kanna Asakura vs Sylwia Juskiewicz 
4. Irene Rivera vs Miyuu Yamamoto
 
[Kick Boxing bout]
3. Issei Ishii vs Jin Mandokoro
2. YUKI vs Darvish Kurogi
1. Yoshihisa Morimoto vs Ryota Renseigym

Kingfedor wrote:
7 days until RIZIN FF makes its first landing in the southern island of Japan, and the highly anticipated event has finally revealed the lineup with the total of 16 fights. The FUKUOKA audience will be treated with variety of fights from kick boxing bouts, legend’s grappling match, men and women’s GP fights, and straight up 10 minute round fights. 
 
The main and co main event will be aired live on Fuji Television, which will be the network’s first time to go live with RIZIN content. RIZIN’s biggest draws RENA and Tenshin Nasukawa has been assigned for the task. 
 
The rest of the world will be able to access the spectacle on FITETV, which will air the entire event LIVE. The commentary team for this event has been revealed as Chris Cordeiro and Anthony Birchak. Chris Cordeiro has been involved with the MMA industry from the beginning, and is extremely experienced and knowledgeable with the Japanese fight scene. Anthony Birchak is a RIZIN fighter, who was part of the ongoing Bantam weight tournament will be looking to give the viewers the insight of RIZIN and the technical action happening in the ring.
 
Confirmed bouts:
 
[Women’s Super-Atom weight GP opening round]
16. RENA vs Andy Nguyen
 
[Super fight]
15. Tenshin Nasukawa vs Yamato Fujita
 
[Grappling match]
14. Kazushi Sakuraba vs Frank Shamrock]
 
[Super Fight]
13. Akiyo Wicky Nishiura vs Andy Souwer 12. KING Reina vs Crystal Stokes
 
[Bantamweight GP qualification bout]
11. Tatsuya Kawajiri vs Gabriel Oliveira
 
[Bantamweight GP opening round Bracket B]
10. Shintaro Ishiwatari vs Akhmed Musakaev
9. Jae Hoon Moon vs Kevin Petshi
8. Manel Kape vs Erson Yamamoto 
 
[Super Fight]
7. Jerome Le Bannder vs Roque Martinez
 
[Women’s Super-Atom weight GP opening round]
6. Alyssa Garcia vs Maria Oliveira
5. Kanna Asakura vs Sylwia Juskiewicz 
4. Irene Rivera vs Miyuu Yamamoto
 
[Kick Boxing bout]
3. Issei Ishii vs Jin Mandokoro
2. YUKI vs Darvish Kurogi
1. Yoshihisa Morimoto vs Ryota Renseigym

Just a week away. It's coming up quick.

A great variety something for everyone watching the pride event on that vk I hope Rizin gets to that 50 60k people I would like to see them darken the arena expect for the ring like they did with pride

westcott123 wrote:A great variety something for everyone watching the pride event on that vk I hope Rizin gets to that 50 60k people I would like to see them darken the arena expect for the ring like they did with pride

Hopefully they will with time. Rome wasn't built in a day. They seem to be doing well so if they continue to slowly build, they should continue to be good and they will come.

http://mmajunkie.com/2017/10/gegard-mousasi-added-freedom-bellator-hard-road-ufc-bellator-185


Thought I post that anything can happen I can see mousasi winning the middle weight light heavyweight belt and even a grand Prix .

^I'd love to see that.