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Fri Apr 19, 2013 7:33 am

Looks like our favorite Chechen fighters 'may' possibly have visa issues now

I was reading Shamil Zavurov's vk.com page last week and I see he's been having visa issues coming to the US. He would have already fought in Bellator if US immigration would have OK's his visa application at the time. It sounds like he has a lawyer working on things.

Here's something that may complicate Zavorov's and all other Chechen fighters re-entering the US after today. There will clearly be much higher scrutiny of anyone coming from southern Russia. I'm sure they're going to label the Boston marathon alleged terrorists Islamic fundamentalist shihadists. Any young Muslim males in Afghanistan in the years following 911 didn't have much luck trying to get US visas.

I know these guys are visible pro athletes from Chechnya but I think it's going to be much much harder for them to get into the US for a quite a while. I'm sure they're now going to try label Chechnya some kind of a terrorist state.


Boston bomb suspects from Russia: AP
WKYT.com - Apr 19, 2013

Bombing suspects identified, appear to be from Russia, near Chechnya

WASHINGTON - Associated Press sources say that both suspects in the Boston bombing are from Russia, in the region near Chechnya.

Both of them have lived in the US for at least 1 year.

One of the suspects was killed earlier this morning. The other has been identified as 19 year-old Dzhokhar A. Tsarnaev, of Cambridge, Massachusetts.

We will continue to update you on this story as more information becomes available.


http://www.wkyt.com/news/headlines/Bombing-suspects-identified-appear-to-be-from-Russia-near-Chechnya--203754031.html?ref=031

http://vk.com/shamil_zavurov_official_page


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Fri Apr 19, 2013 7:53 am
Yeah, it will be more difficult for them to get visas probably.
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Fri Apr 19, 2013 8:00 am
Russia Today great article! - http://rt.com/news/chechnya-suspect-boston-bombing-110/

Suspect #2's Russian vk/facebook page - http://vk.com/id160300242
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Fri Apr 19, 2013 8:10 am
looks like his friends are pissed for disgracing russia, hmmm I still say he is just a patsy being used as a scape goat for yet another american false flag.

Edit: I wonder if this was all a setup to start shit between Russia and the usa..... yea I know "thats crazy" but live here awhile and you will see how the gov works they love to use this shit as a excuse to start shit, stupid america russia isnt iraq, that country will actually fight back. Either way dont matter to me, I speak 2 languages and a few hours from another country...


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Fri Apr 19, 2013 8:29 am
PRIDE NEVER DIE wrote:looks like his friends are pissed for disgracing russia, hmmm I still say he is just a patsy being used as a scape goat for yet another american false flag.

Edit: I wonder if this was all a setup to start shit between Russia and the usa..... yea I know "thats crazy" but live here awhile and you will see how the gov works they love to use this shit as a excuse to start shit, stupid america russia isnt iraq, that country will actually fight back. Either way dont matter to me, I speak 2 languages and a few hours from another country...


FBI Ignores Men With Backpacks At Scene of Boston Bombings
Infowars.com - April 18, 2013

“Other photos will not be deemed credible”




The FBI has attempted to blacklist photos which show men working for a private military organization wearing heavy backpacks and appearing to take part in a drill at the Boston Marathon, instead focusing on two other individuals while proclaiming, “other photos will not be deemed credible.”

As Infowars has documented over the last two days, photos taken from the scene of the blast show numerous individuals wearing identical clothing while carrying heavy black backpacks, talking into cellphones and in one case placing one of the backpacks on the ground.

Infowars reporter Dan Bidondi was at the FBI press conference and attempted to get questions answered about bomb drills that eyewitnesses said were taking place on the morning of the marathon, but was ignored and subsequently confronted by two large men at the end of the conference.

In not only ignoring but aggressively attempting to discredit the photos showing men who are likely employees of the private security firm Craft International on the scene of the bombings engaged in some kind of drill, the FBI has signaled its intention to continue the cover-up of what really happened.




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Fri Apr 19, 2013 8:46 am
Oh yea I know all of that DAggy, people dont want to believe it, but yet they cant debunk it.
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Fri Apr 19, 2013 8:54 am
PRIDE NEVER DIE wrote:Oh yea I know all of that DAggy, people dont want to believe it, but yet they cant debunk it.

Daggy knows much much more. Bwhahahaha!
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Fri Apr 19, 2013 8:59 am
I think there's more things like this to come as well.
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Fri Apr 19, 2013 3:22 pm
Those photos show nothing tbh. Please dont start with this crap.
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Fri Apr 19, 2013 3:31 pm
TehPackage wrote:Those photos show nothing tbh. Please dont start with this crap.
Why do you always have to be "that" guy?
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Fri Apr 19, 2013 3:35 pm
PRIDE NEVER DIE wrote:
TehPackage wrote:Those photos show nothing tbh. Please dont start with this crap.
Why do you always have to be "that" guy?
Theres guys standing around with backpacks OMG!!! Proves and shows nothing. What do you mean "that" guy?
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Fri Apr 19, 2013 3:42 pm
TehPackage wrote:
PRIDE NEVER DIE wrote:
TehPackage wrote:Those photos show nothing tbh. Please dont start with this crap.
Why do you always have to be "that" guy?
Theres guys standing around with backpacks OMG!!! Proves and shows nothing. What do you mean "that" guy?
Its just a theory many people have. Do you think the government can do no wrong?

Now before you type "ANSWER THE QUESTION"(in all caps) by "that" guy I mean it always seems you never agree with anything people say here(besides wekka Suspect ), I wonder why you put yourself through this, why hang out at a place where you disagree with the posters 80% of the time.

Im going to stop at that.
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Fri Apr 19, 2013 3:42 pm
Why would American want to start anything with Russia? It's not like they outright have anything we want.

This isn't the UFC and M-1 lol.
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Fri Apr 19, 2013 3:44 pm
Are they Chechen or Dagestani?

I keep hearing conflicting reports.
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Fri Apr 19, 2013 3:46 pm
wekka wrote:Why would American want to start anything with Russia? It's not like they outright have anything we want.

This isn't the UFC and M-1 lol.
oh your right they only pick on countries with oil who CANT defend themselves.... I was just making talk, most likely nothing besides the fact china and russia are slowly working together too have a Gold back currency, something the usa doesn't want, and would make the dollar even more worthless so technically there is a possible reason right there.
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Fri Apr 19, 2013 3:46 pm
My point is theres nothing in those photos that suggests these guys are involved.Nothing. Its a couple guys standing around with back packs. I love how one photo shows a guy not looking at the marathon. So what. Theres probably thousands of photos where people are not looking at the race at the time of the photo. Means nothing.
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Fri Apr 19, 2013 3:48 pm
TehPackage wrote:My point is theres nothing in those photos that suggests these guys are involved.Nothing. Its a couple guys standing around with back packs. I love how one photo shows a guy not looking at the marathon. So what. Theres probably thousands of photos where people are not looking at the race at the time of the photo. Means nothing.
Could be, but there's always a possibility. I like to keep a open mind about this stuff.
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Fri Apr 19, 2013 3:51 pm
wekka wrote:Are they Chechen or Dagestani?

I keep hearing conflicting reports.
This is what my local news is saying
He and his brother's family is originally from Chechnya, a volatile and once war-torn southern Russian republic. The family fled to Kyrgyzstan and eventually immigrated to the United States as refugees about 10 years ago.
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Fri Apr 19, 2013 4:02 pm
PRIDE NEVER DIE wrote:
TehPackage wrote:
PRIDE NEVER DIE wrote:
TehPackage wrote:Those photos show nothing tbh. Please dont start with this crap.
Why do you always have to be "that" guy?
Theres guys standing around with backpacks OMG!!! Proves and shows nothing. What do you mean "that" guy?
Its just a theory many people have. Do you think the government can do no wrong?

Now before you type "ANSWER THE QUESTION"(in all caps) by "that" guy I mean it always seems you never agree with anything people say here(besides wekka Suspect ), I wonder why you put yourself through this, why hang out at a place where you disagree with the posters 80% of the time.

Im going to stop at that.
I dont want to go over this every time I post. Its getting annoying. I have an account here and on linker. Never made an account anywhere else. Most of the MMA talk is about the UFC on linker. I come here for news/info and even learn about fighters from other orgs. I dont troll and I dont break the rules.
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Fri Apr 19, 2013 4:04 pm
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"If the Dzhokhar Tsarnaev in front of me now I run over his mother than put the dumb bitch in camel clutch while Nikolai sing russia anthem". I dont have a twitter but Ive heard The Iron Sheik is pretty funny.
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Fri Apr 19, 2013 6:32 pm
as long as my bitches can still get visas
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Fri Apr 19, 2013 6:54 pm
You guys need to get it in your heads that Chechen and Russian are 2 different cultures, it's like calling Dagwood an American even though he is Canadian.

Chechnya is known to house terrorists who attack Russia, just google Chechen Theatre attack or the Beslan School hostage crisis where a total of 334 people died including 186 little kids. Russia and Chechnya have fought in wars and I don't condone any of it.

People with muslim backgrounds in general will have visa issues now.
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Fri Apr 19, 2013 7:04 pm
RussianTopTeam wrote:You guys need to get it in your heads that Chechen and Russian are 2 different cultures, it's like calling Dagwood an American even though he is Canadian.

Chechnya is known to house terrorists who attack Russia, just google Chechen Theatre attack or the Beslan School hostage crisis where a total of 334 people died including 186 little kids. Russia and Chechnya have fought in wars and I don't condone any of it.

People with muslim backgrounds in general will have visa issues now.
Yes Chechnya vs Russia has been going on since 1785.
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