RIZIN 11 - Sataima - July 29 (OFFICIAL DISCUSSION)

It would have been a good fight.

Would have loved to see Jiri vs. Cro Cop. Maybe on NYE now.

^^ nye would be nice of course it depends on this injury cro cop has ^^ I would not mind having jiri do some bouts in Bellator though I suspect he will mainly compete in rizin and bushido Lithuania. Repeating myself again but mma would be better if the fighters had more freedom to be able to compete in say at least 2 organizations (m1 global ksw, Rizin Bellator) etc the ufc fighters were also allowed to be able to compete in other organizations, imagine how much better mma would be.

In reality for that to happen the ufc has to either
1 collapse (most likely will not happen)
2 lose the "top spot" to another organization
3 the sport of mma will of had to out grow the ufc itself.
4 the fighters start standing up and say no to this shit and up comers don't have a I have to go to the ufc because " mentality
5 it will get rid of the ufctards.

westcott123 wrote:^^ nye would be nice of course it depends on this injury cro cop has ^^ I would not mind having jiri do some bouts in Bellator though I suspect he will mainly compete in rizin and bushido Lithuania. Repeating myself again but mma would be better if the fighters had more freedom to be able to compete in say at least 2 organizations (m1 global ksw, Rizin Bellator) etc the ufc fighters were also allowed to be able to compete in other organizations, imagine how much better mma would be.

In reality for that to happen the ufc has to either
1 collapse (most likely will not happen)
2 lose the "top spot" to another organization
3 the sport of mma will of had to out grow the ufc itself.
4 the fighters start standing up and say no to this shit and up comers don't have a  I have to go to the ufc because " mentality
5 it will get rid of the ufctards.

Yeah, that would be nice to see him in Bellator as well as Rizin. He would be a draw for both orgs. There are a number of Bellator fighters I'd also like to see in Rizin. King Mo was allowed to fight there but would be nice to see some more fighters crossing over both ways.

I agree it would be nice to see that

westcott123 wrote:I agree it would be nice to see that

Tenshin vs. Caldwell or Horiguchi vs. Caldwell
Bader vs. Jiri
Cro Cop vs. Mitrione
Kunimoto vs. Douglas Lima
Yachi vs. Chandler
Kron vs. Weichel or Kron vs. Freire

CDF47 wrote:

westcott123 wrote:I agree it would be nice to see that

Tenshin vs. Caldwell or Horiguchi vs. Caldwell
Bader vs. Jiri
Cro Cop vs. Mitrione
Kunimoto vs. Douglas Lima
Yachi vs. Chandler
Kron vs. Weichel or Kron vs. Freire

We got to see the return of Kron. He hasn't fought in over a year. I hope he returns as he appears to have potential.

Those fights are interesting and could be cool.

I just noticed that Rena vs Kanna Asakura rematch is on the card.

Rocksoldier84 wrote:

CDF47 wrote:

westcott123 wrote:I agree it would be nice to see that

Tenshin vs. Caldwell or Horiguchi vs. Caldwell
Bader vs. Jiri
Cro Cop vs. Mitrione
Kunimoto vs. Douglas Lima
Yachi vs. Chandler
Kron vs. Weichel or Kron vs. Freire

We got to see the return of Kron. He hasn't fought in over a year. I hope he returns as he appears to have potential.

Those fights are interesting and could be cool.

I agree, I am looking forward to the return of Kron as well. He was a good new star they were building up but now he hasn't fought in so long.

Apparently, Gomi will face Souwer here. I'll always support Gomi but I worry about him continuing to fight. Could he control Souwer on the ground? Yes but I don't like his chances as his chin looks to be gone. I sadly see another knockout loss and a seventh straight loss.

I will say this
1 if gomi loses he should retire open a gym train the next generation.
2 if gomi wins he should do the same thing as number one
3 if Andy loses then mma isn't for him

Rocksoldier84 wrote:Apparently, Gomi will face Souwer here. I'll always support Gomi but I worry about him continuing to fight. Could he control Souwer on the ground? Yes but I don't like his chances as his chin looks to be gone. I sadly see another knockout loss and a seventh straight loss.

Yeah, his only chance here is on the ground or else he's getting KO'd again.

It is of course it is mma anything can happen unfortunately gomi is a shadow of himself of a shadow of himself.

It sucks seeing gomi lose to people he would of have beaten in his prime man at one point gomi was 24.2 and was in the pound for pound list

westcott123 wrote:It is of course it is mma anything can happen unfortunately gomi is a shadow of himself of a shadow of himself.

It sucks seeing gomi lose to people he would of have beaten in his prime man at one point gomi was 24.2 and was in the pound for pound list

True, anything could happen, just don't like seeing Gomi finishing out like this either.

I can not wait for the card, with rizin I do see it as a major player in the Asian mma scene for me the big three are one fc road fc rizin ff.

With Rizin ff now do people think the reason it gets more shit is because it is pride 2.0? Giving how pride still is beloved and also do people think the same with Bellator? As in it is strikstrike 2.0 under Scott? . Or am I just over reaching? The answer is they want only the ufc to be the big player in town? But does the other two factors play into it?

Yeah I think we have Pride 2.0 and SF 2.0 with Rizin and Bellator.

My picks are 
1 kyoji the man is on fire is basically the second best fly weight behind mighty mouse he is too fuck what the other sites rankings say. 

2 kanna I see it being 2.0 for kanna personally they should of left the rematch to 2020 why because it would of been more interesting because both girls would have more experience and would have more wrinkles in their game not to mention them being champions title holders in rizin or an organization a part of the federation .
Imagine 2020
Kanna 22-2 
Rizin gp champion 
pancrase champion 
Rena 15-1
Rizin ff gp 
Deep gp champion  yes anything can happen still imagine that though the hype would be big. 

3 on the ground gomi on the feet souer my opinion the winner will be dependent on where it takes place. 
4 saori to be truthful I'm only going with her mainly
due to  miju not doing too well in mma. 

5 jiri I think he is the best middleweight in the organization yes middleweight Rizin light heavyweight doesn't roll off tongue does it? 

6 tenshin the kids a beast and definite favourite to win the kickboxing gp this year . I would love to see how he goes against the European kickboxers of his division 
7

CDF47 wrote:Yeah I think we have Pride 2.0 and SF 2.0 with Rizin and Bellator.

Given how hugely popular still today pride and strikeforce were i will say it always  "ufc fans only want the ufc to be the major player "Then again they always seem to think that the ufc was top dog in mma from day dot and no matter what you say they never get it through their thick skulls.

westcott123 wrote:

CDF47 wrote:Yeah I think we have Pride 2.0 and SF 2.0 with Rizin and Bellator.

Given how hugely popular still today pride and strikeforce were i will say it always  "ufc fans only want the ufc to be the major player "Then again they always seem to think that the ufc was top dog in mma from day dot and no matter what you say they never get it through their thick skulls.

And you know they hate it. They can't understand why people would prefer those "inferior" promotions with one being fake. Of course, it's not brain surgery. Great fights and moments with many great fighters who got their big breaks and PRIDE also had better rules and larger than life presentation. UFC has bare bones productions, shitty garbage theme song, & the worst format in MMA.

Rocksoldier84 wrote:

westcott123 wrote:

CDF47 wrote:Yeah I think we have Pride 2.0 and SF 2.0 with Rizin and Bellator.

Given how hugely popular still today pride and strikeforce were i will say it always  "ufc fans only want the ufc to be the major player "Then again they always seem to think that the ufc was top dog in mma from day dot and no matter what you say they never get it through their thick skulls.

And you know they hate it. They can't understand why people would prefer those "inferior" promotions with one being fake. Of course, it's not brain surgery. Great fights and moments with many great fighters who got their big breaks and PRIDE also had better rules and larger than life presentation. UFC has bare bones productions, shitty garbage theme song, & the worst format in MMA.

Yeah, it is a no contest putting Rizin production against UFC.

^^ they would be scratching their heads wondering why that everyone doesn't like the ufc ^^ I accept not everyone likes pride i won't accept pride was all fixed yeah in the early goings. Goodridge said himself said it died after a few years of course the ufc zombies they like to look at few fixed fights and use that as their basis of all fights being fixed in that promotion  just like they like to use fighters that were flops in the ufc as repsentation of all the fighters in that promotion. It is amazing that there are ufc fans who believe the ufc was the top promotion from day one even when you have actual proof that it wasn't it is like "ufc has always been the biggest promotion" even when you show proof that it wasn't their answer "the ufc has always been the biggest promotion".

westcott123 wrote:^^ they would be scratching their heads wondering why that everyone doesn't like the ufc ^^ I accept not everyone likes pride i won't accept pride was all fixed yeah in the early goings. Goodridge said himself said it died after a few years of course the ufc zombies they like to look at few fixed fights and use that as their basis of all fights being fixed in that promotion  just like they like to use fighters that were flops in the ufc as repsentation of all the fighters in that promotion. It is amazing that there are ufc fans who believe the ufc was the top promotion from day one even when you have actual proof that it wasn't it is like "ufc has always been the biggest promotion" even when you show proof that it wasn't their answer "the ufc has always been the biggest promotion".

Of course, they don't know what they're talking about.

Daron Cruickshankvs Tom Santos and Kai Asakura vs Topnoi Thanongsaklek added to the RIZIN.11 event on July 29th at the Saitama Super Arena!

Kingfedor wrote:
Daron Cruickshankvs Tom Santos and Kai Asakura vs Topnoi Thanongsaklek added to the RIZIN.11 event on July 29th at the Saitama Super Arena!

Interested in seeing how this Tom Santos prospect turns out against Cruickshank.