Bellator 214: Fedor vs. Bader - January 26 (OFFICIAL DISCUSSION)

CDF47 wrote:Sucks Fedor lost the way he did but he is still the GOAT.  He is just not prime Fedor anymore.  He had a nice run to the finals.

westcott123 wrote:

CDF47 wrote:Sucks Fedor lost the way he did but he is still the GOAT.  He is just not prime Fedor anymore.  He had a nice run to the finals.

He made it to the finals sucks he didn't get the fairy tail ending still the goat  .

Isn't Amazing you have "fans" who hate on the guy because he didn't suck up to Dana and the ufc  .

westcott123 wrote:https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.bloodyelbow.com/platform/amp/2019/1/27/18199294/bellator-214-mma-news-heavyweight-fedor-emelianenko-scott-coker-ryan-bader-retirement-fight-contract

This was the last fight on his contact ... I also noticed that sakkibarra must of been there too because I saw a photo of him Posing with vitor .
I would love to see Fedor have one more fight in Japan and retire.

I will be honest I was mixed when it came to Fedor unretiring  yeah It was great he got this far at the same time the Pedro Rizzo knock out was the perfect ending for him.

CDF47 wrote:

westcott123 wrote:

CDF47 wrote:Sucks Fedor lost the way he did but he is still the GOAT.  He is just not prime Fedor anymore.  He had a nice run to the finals.

He made it to the finals sucks he didn't get the fairy tail ending still the goat  .

Isn't Amazing you have "fans" who hate on the guy because he didn't suck up to Dana and the ufc  .

Yeah, I agree.  Those fans are ridiculous.  

westcott123 wrote:https://youtu.be/yOrwNposkdo

Fedor first fight with noguiera ... This Fedor would of ran through that bellator tournament.. I hear people say he was only 33 that's your prime for heavyweights .... I guess this thing called mileage and accumulation of damage is all bull shit apparently yep  because 33 mma fights in a decade the Sambo on top of that and judo matches do it since 10-11 years old.

Don't these people realise that a lot of mma fighters competed in other combat sports that also can take a lot out of person.

westcott123 wrote:https://m.facebook.com/rizinfans/photos/a.1528075073920281/2171087642952351/?type=3&source=48

This is the photo of course whether that was the event over the weekend or another one not too sure.

westcott123 wrote:

CDF47 wrote:

westcott123 wrote:

CDF47 wrote:Sucks Fedor lost the way he did but he is still the GOAT.  He is just not prime Fedor anymore.  He had a nice run to the finals.

He made it to the finals sucks he didn't get the fairy tail ending still the goat  .

Isn't Amazing you have "fans" who hate on the guy because he didn't suck up to Dana and the ufc  .

Yeah, I agree.  Those fans are ridiculous.  

They certainly are some of those people it's amazing how they try to change the narrative to fit their agenda example back then the rankings the pride fc heavyweight champion was the top ranked fighter in the division , Fedor had all those "fixed" , fights he had them in his back pocket apparently . Though still to this day can't name which fight was fixed and most importantly why would they fix fights for him? According to their logic oh let's see we have big nog cro cop Ogawa fujita these guys are very popular and we can make a lot of money but nah fuck it will just fix fights for this quiet unassuming pudgy Russian guy.

westcott123 wrote:https://youtu.be/yOrwNposkdo

Fedor first fight with noguiera ... This Fedor would of ran through that bellator tournament.. I hear people say he was only 33 that's your prime for heavyweights .... I guess this thing called mileage and accumulation of damage is all bull shit apparently yep  because 33 mma fights in a decade the Sambo on top of that and judo matches do it since 10-11 years old.

Don't these people realise that a lot of mma fighters competed in other combat sports that also can take a lot out of person.

I have seen the same thing said about Aldo his only 30 etc it doesn't matter if you are heavyweight or any weight if you're not on top after you hit 30 you were never that good.

westcott123 wrote:

westcott123 wrote:https://youtu.be/yOrwNposkdo

Fedor first fight with noguiera ... This Fedor would of ran through that bellator tournament.. I hear people say he was only 33 that's your prime for heavyweights .... I guess this thing called mileage and accumulation of damage is all bull shit apparently yep  because 33 mma fights in a decade the Sambo on top of that and judo matches do it since 10-11 years old.

Don't these people realise that a lot of mma fighters competed in other combat sports that also can take a lot out of person.

The hw goat he will be until someone breaks that record going on his 31-1-0-1 record yes he did fight  cans I mean really which fighter hasn't? .  Amazing even though the bulk of his career is in Japan He has fought 6 guys from Japan none if them are taxi drivers . I had to Poke fun at that.

nodogoshi wrote:Not saying Fedor should keep fighting (though I'll watch), or that he should have won or anything.

But he was hesitating. He didn't attack like he normally has.

I think he was weary of the takedowns.

He was laying back and waiting. Worse yet, he laid back and waited with his hands down.

He was like a +350 underdog, and the odds makers usually get it right. It was going to be a bit upset if he won.

Fedor is not the same Fedor of old by a long shot. He can still fight, but he is way past his prime, and probably won't have a win against a top-level world class fighter again at this stage.

That may have been his last fight, and probably had ought to be. But it isn't like I have any control over that.

Here's one out of left field. If he wants to fight again, why not fight Tito Ortiz, lol.

westcott123 wrote:^^ same here ^^ though another thing I laugh at is Fedor Record would of ended sooner if he came to the UFC yeah because Tim Sylvia and Andrei arlovski and Frank Mir would of destroyed him.... Hang on .

Rocksoldier84 wrote:

westcott123 wrote:

westcott123 wrote:Bad news he lost .... Fuck I mean fuck the zombies will have a field day .

So much for their theory of the tournament being fixed for Fedor he Is the goat 38-6-0-1 10 , years undefeated streak 10-1 in title matches .

I would love to see him fight Mirko or rampage  before he retires.

Still the fact that he got to the finals is amazing for a man who is over 10 years past his best.

It might sound like an excuse realistically Ryan Bader had the advantages right from the beginning he was the youngest guy He hasn't taken as much damage as the other fighters .

Though the Fedor who pounded noguiera into the matt  would in my opinion would have won

But still.

Congrats to Bader no excuses he won fair and square

Got that right. It was fixed so he could get knocked out in the finals. That makes sense.

The zombies will have a field day but it's a shallow one cause he still made it to the finals, beat two former UFC fighters along the way, and beat five former UFC Champions which you can't take away.

Bader deserves his moment but if there is an excuse it was that Fedor's chin clearly isn't what it once was cause that would never happen in his prime and along with the Hendo loss, we saw in his recent fights with Maldonado, Mitrione, and Mir that his chin isn't what it once was.

It's sad in many ways cause you can't help but wonder what if he did win? Possible title matches against Cro Cop and Kharitonov would've been great and a Minakov fight would've been absolutely epic and easily one of the biggest of all time.

westcott123 wrote:

Rocksoldier84 wrote:

westcott123 wrote:

westcott123 wrote:Bad news he lost .... Fuck I mean fuck the zombies will have a field day .

So much for their theory of the tournament being fixed for Fedor he Is the goat 38-6-0-1 10 , years undefeated streak 10-1 in title matches .

I would love to see him fight Mirko or rampage  before he retires.

Still the fact that he got to the finals is amazing for a man who is over 10 years past his best.

It might sound like an excuse realistically Ryan Bader had the advantages right from the beginning he was the youngest guy He hasn't taken as much damage as the other fighters .

Though the Fedor who pounded noguiera into the matt  would in my opinion would have won

But still.

Congrats to Bader no excuses he won fair and square

Got that right. It was fixed so he could get knocked out in the finals. That makes sense.

The zombies will have a field day but it's a shallow one cause he still made it to the finals, beat two former UFC fighters along the way, and beat five former UFC Champions which you can't take away.

Bader deserves his moment but if there is an excuse it was that Fedor's chin clearly isn't what it once was cause that would never happen in his prime and along with the Hendo loss, we saw in his recent fights with Maldonado, Mitrione, and Mir that his chin isn't what it once was.

It's sad in many ways cause you can't help but wonder what if he did win? Possible title matches against Cro Cop and Kharitonov would've been great and a Minakov fight would've been absolutely epic and easily one of the biggest of all time.

At least he beat Mir and sonnen can you imagine if he lost to them? Especially the shit they Said over the years.

westcott123 wrote:https://www.mmafighting.com/2019/2/11/18218105/coach-ryan-bader-finish-daniel-cormier-champ-superfight-ufc-bellator?fbclid=IwAR3qnw-9H-9lGBAgpy4vfLhOFLb2u0GIMc634X7q19d3f21_uDr47Rz41GI

Eh who would win in a Daniel Cormier vs Ryan Bader Super fight ?

Lol I know I'm right if dc was in bellator and Ryan was in the ufc you can bet "Ryan will smash dc that's why He is in bellator"

westcott123 wrote:^^  exactly that's their go to thing when was the last time they said the ufc guy is better because  

A skill sets
B competition
C similar opponents

A  Impossible because someone will always have a skill they are better at

B the ufc might be the big promotion but they also have people no one has heard of people don't put things in perspective.

C well Chuck beat wand  wand beat Keith Keith beat Chuck rampage chuck wand rampage. So many examples .

I have no qualms people saying dc will win  I personally think he would but difference is you won't see me  go oh oh dc will smash Bader because his in the UFC and uh uh yeah that's it."

westcott123 wrote:I wonder if the same thing would of been said when Bader was in the UFC and DC was in strikeforce? ... No no of course not.