Vale Tudo Japan 2012 Discussion
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Re: Vale Tudo Japan 2012 Discussion
Wed Dec 19, 2012 11:42 pm
ustream takes a big cut though
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Re: Vale Tudo Japan 2012 Discussion
Wed Dec 19, 2012 11:50 pm
no not really
https://www.ustream.tv/ustream-pro/pricing
https://www.ustream.tv/ustream-pro/pricing
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Re: Vale Tudo Japan 2012 Discussion
Wed Dec 19, 2012 11:53 pm
not to stream it but for the ppv payment itself. It's why ufc charges 59.99 because the cable/sat companies take half.
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Re: Vale Tudo Japan 2012 Discussion
Wed Dec 19, 2012 11:59 pm
if it's paypal they are getting raped, paypal is an ebay company and ebay screws you for over 9%. I doubt anyone on ustream is getting even 60% of the money they take in. I will write dave meltzer and see if he knows what ustream's backend ppv cut is.
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Re: Vale Tudo Japan 2012 Discussion
Thu Dec 20, 2012 12:04 am
I doubt ustream take HALF and they don't take paypal at all but regardless, my point stands that it's pure money in the pocket 10k or 20k, it doesn't matter that's a nice chunk of change for NJPW and would be a substantial profit for a JMMA show.
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Re: Vale Tudo Japan 2012 Discussion
Thu Dec 20, 2012 12:13 am
strange they dont take paypal straight because when you click buy now they are definitely using paypal as the backend because it's loading up javascript from paypalobjects.com.
njpw sells well enough they dont mind if a stream is there because they aren't worried about ticket sales. Most mma shows might think it could impact the local ticket sales if people can watch online.
njpw sells well enough they dont mind if a stream is there because they aren't worried about ticket sales. Most mma shows might think it could impact the local ticket sales if people can watch online.
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Re: Vale Tudo Japan 2012 Discussion
Thu Dec 20, 2012 12:24 am
Just block it in Japan, problem solved
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Thu Dec 20, 2012 12:28 am
yeah and shooto already has a partner account at youtube, they could stream live to the world and increase their branding with very little effort. I wonder why they dont look at what the UFC and WWE do and put some effort into some better marketing and money making schemes.
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Re: Vale Tudo Japan 2012 Discussion
Thu Dec 20, 2012 12:30 am
IQ Wrestler wrote:Just block it in Japan, problem solved
I honestly don't know why they don't. Risk or not, you'd think they'd take all the additional income they can get.
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Re: Vale Tudo Japan 2012 Discussion
Thu Dec 20, 2012 12:48 am
well they are streaming it on ppv only in japan
http://www.perfectchoice-pr.com/program/page/000142.html
http://www.perfectchoice-pr.com/program/page/000142.html
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Thu Dec 20, 2012 12:54 am
That's actual tv ppv i think
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Re: Vale Tudo Japan 2012 Discussion
Thu Dec 20, 2012 12:57 am
so is there a chance there could still be a worldwide ippv?
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Re: Vale Tudo Japan 2012 Discussion
Thu Dec 20, 2012 1:06 am
I would say no.
3 and a half days leaves 0 time to set it up and promote it
3 and a half days leaves 0 time to set it up and promote it
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Thu Dec 20, 2012 4:59 am
VTJ Girls
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Thu Dec 20, 2012 3:05 pm
Last chick looks like the girl in your sig.
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Re: Vale Tudo Japan 2012 Discussion
Fri Dec 21, 2012 3:19 pm
Fight added to card:
Daisuke Hoshino 7-6-1 vs Kuntap Weerasakreck 0-1
Daisuke Hoshino 7-6-1 vs Kuntap Weerasakreck 0-1
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Re: Vale Tudo Japan 2012 Discussion
Fri Dec 21, 2012 5:30 pm
ZuffaKiller wrote:Fight added to card:
Daisuke Hoshino 7-6-1 vs Kuntap Weerasakreck 0-1
what seems like an insignificant fight on paper is actually a perfect fight for VTJ. Just like the mid 90s events, a perfect match of styles clash. While I don't see Muay Thai having anything for a well rounded mixed martial artist, it could still end up surprisingly good.
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Re: Vale Tudo Japan 2012 Discussion
Fri Dec 21, 2012 7:18 pm
For VTJ 09 there was a few people who basically begged the owner of mma-tv to find a stream source - he did then the stream cut out I think 2 fights in and no one was awake to fix it. I don't know if any of you guys were watching that stream but it was hilarious / saddening. I think it cut out right after Chiquerim broke Togashis nose.
Not sure if there is still any easier avenue to view it live not in Japan.
Not sure if there is still any easier avenue to view it live not in Japan.
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Re: Vale Tudo Japan 2012 Discussion
Fri Dec 21, 2012 9:49 pm
nicovideo is a maze if you're not in a chat to get help. Anyway this card is savage, can't wait to find out what happens.
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Re: Vale Tudo Japan 2012 Discussion
Sat Dec 22, 2012 1:34 am
GOOD NEWS!!
http://www.asianmma.com/?p=4793
http://www.asianmma.com/?p=4793
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Re: Vale Tudo Japan 2012 Discussion
Sat Dec 22, 2012 1:49 am
oh dear baby jesus please
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Re: Vale Tudo Japan 2012 Discussion
Sat Dec 22, 2012 1:51 am
meyer1244 wrote:For VTJ 09 there was a few people who basically begged the owner of mma-tv to find a stream source - he did then the stream cut out I think 2 fights in and no one was awake to fix it. I don't know if any of you guys were watching that stream but it was hilarious / saddening. I think it cut out right after Chiquerim broke Togashis nose.
Not sure if there is still any easier avenue to view it live not in Japan.
was this on sopcast? I think I watcehd this
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Re: Vale Tudo Japan 2012 Discussion
Sat Dec 22, 2012 3:54 am
Sounds greatIQ Wrestler wrote:GOOD NEWS!!
http://www.asianmma.com/?p=4793
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Re: Vale Tudo Japan 2012 Discussion
Sat Dec 22, 2012 4:10 am
Lofgren wrote:Sounds greatIQ Wrestler wrote:GOOD NEWS!!
http://www.asianmma.com/?p=4793
I am twitter-fying AXS TV right now!
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Re: Vale Tudo Japan 2012 Discussion
Sat Dec 22, 2012 10:19 am
IQ Wrestler wrote:GOOD NEWS!!
http://www.asianmma.com/?p=4793
Wow, that would be so amazing if AXS picks this up. Hopefully live.
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